New XL2 Music Video

Liam Hall · February 25th, 2007, 05:43 AM

The moral of this story is;

Hire a kid to do a man's job...

BTW Giuseppe, the video is still up and running. My advice would be delete it immediately.

Daniel Gast · February 25th, 2007, 11:55 AM

Indeed, the song itself would be a copywrite infringement, and if they are asking you not to display it, it should be taken down. Good job on the shooting, though...

Wes Coughlin · February 25th, 2007, 03:41 PM

I don't understand why such a sensitive issue has to be displayed on this forum. To act in a professional manner this problem should of been handled either in person or over the phone, not publicly at DVINFO. Edward Tomecko should of realized that threatening an 19 year old with legal actions on a public internet message board is the wrong way to handle this situation. As it does not help himslef, the client, or Giuseppe in solving the problem professionally.

Edward Tomecko · February 25th, 2007, 05:52 PM

this problem is over a year old... i am not threatening this person. i am simply reacting to something that is still being shown long after he agreed to remove it. furthermore if he would answer emails and phone messages regarding these matters then that would have been the way things would have been handled. it's up to him now- i'm done with this!

Eric Stemen · March 7th, 2007, 12:28 AM

This band or whatever should be stoked that this kid put his stuff up....if he didn't we wouldn't hear about them.....I don't care for them, but anyway i got to hear them along with seeing the work. I bet the footage that was shot was made to be shown also. I really doubt you all are losing money from people who watch this and may like the band enough to buy a cd or go to a show.....because people don't usually pay to see a music video.

Daniel Gast · March 7th, 2007, 12:38 AM

I get the feeling the point is that it's unreleased material (over a year old? Holy cow, how long they gonna take??) and they don't want it out, or people taking the song and distributing it, etc.

*shrug* It was a good vid...

Edward Tomecko · March 7th, 2007, 06:23 PM

1. this isnt the clients video!

2. work for hire stole the footage!

3. it's a solo artist working on completing an album! had some personal issues as well as this One.

4. amount of VIDEO WORK generated from the new director/producer/shooter preventing audio clients from being able to book time to finish album projects such as this one, but client ok with that, he likes to take his time.

5. people are copying the video and extracting the audio! ( but i guess that should be allowed, right?) after all, what's his is everyones!!!!

Eric Stemen · March 7th, 2007, 11:11 PM

Ok, so what it comes down to is this is guess.

You joined this message bored just to complain(hey, every message board needs an anoying person) Which in turn gets more people to see the band because this thread stays at the top(thanks to people like me that say you make no since).....so ughhhhhhh good job, your getting your band noticed, but i doubt anyone here is ripping the audio off( I still stand by my original statement that the band doesn't sound that great to me, but i do give them props for being able to do what they do.).

Daniel Gast · March 7th, 2007, 11:34 PM

Edward, one thing that bugs me is that your grammer is horrid. It doesn't look professional to use such grammer, and definately doesn't make other people take you very seriously.

Now, I have no doubts that what you're saying is true...there are just better ways of doing it than typing like a 15 year old. :) *love*

Jad Meouchy · March 8th, 2007, 01:25 AM

this is a joke, right?

if the song's not copyrighted, it can't be stolen because it's not owned :)

Edward Tomecko · March 8th, 2007, 01:25 PM

Thanks, daniel.
I didn't join up to complain! I think this just got out of hand. I do believe the point was made. I have learned alot from this forum.
Take care guys!

Liam Hall · March 8th, 2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Gast

Edward, one thing that bugs me is that your grammer is horrid. It doesn't look professional to use such grammer, and definately doesn't make other people take you very seriously.

Now, I have no doubts that what you're saying is true...there are just better ways of doing it than typing like a 15 year old. :) *love*

Daniel,
Whilst you're on the subject, I think your spelling could do with a little work.

You guys should really take this one down to your local bar and sort it out over a drink or two; I can hear the sound of lawyers sharpening their pencils.

As a piece of work the video is average at best and it's certainly not worth losing your house over it

Liam.

Daniel Gast · March 8th, 2007, 03:13 PM

Did I misspell grammar? Dangit...

[EDIT: And definitely...]

;) *love*

Adam Bray · March 16th, 2007, 01:04 AM

Ego Ed,

You hired the kid. Call him and make your complaints with him. Not here. Go call your attorney and complain to him. This is not the place.

Mike Andrade · March 16th, 2007, 11:06 AM

I agree. No one here is going to steal this artist's material nor do most of us care. I'm pretty sure the concensus is that we are all here to discuss the creative/technical aspects of DV. This is no place for this kind of drama. Send him a c & d letter IF its copyrighted material and keep this crap off of this forum.

February 25th, 2007, 11:55 AM	#17
Daniel Gast Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 69	Indeed, the song itself would be a copywrite infringement, and if they are asking you not to display it, it should be taken down. Good job on the shooting, though... __________________ Dan Gast JD Video Productions

February 25th, 2007, 03:41 PM	#18
Wes Coughlin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bend, Oregon Posts: 206	I don't understand why such a sensitive issue has to be displayed on this forum. To act in a professional manner this problem should of been handled either in person or over the phone, not publicly at DVINFO. Edward Tomecko should of realized that threatening an 19 year old with legal actions on a public internet message board is the wrong way to handle this situation. As it does not help himslef, the client, or Giuseppe in solving the problem professionally. __________________ http://wildlookout.com

February 25th, 2007, 05:52 PM	#19
Edward Tomecko Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cleveland, ohio Posts: 55	actually..... this problem is over a year old... i am not threatening this person. i am simply reacting to something that is still being shown long after he agreed to remove it. furthermore if he would answer emails and phone messages regarding these matters then that would have been the way things would have been handled. it's up to him now- i'm done with this!

March 7th, 2007, 12:38 AM	#21
Daniel Gast Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 69	I get the feeling the point is that it's unreleased material (over a year old? Holy cow, how long they gonna take??) and they don't want it out, or people taking the song and distributing it, etc. shrug It was a good vid... __________________ Dan Gast JD Video Productions

March 7th, 2007, 06:23 PM	#22
Edward Tomecko Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cleveland, ohio Posts: 55	his video 1. this isnt the clients video! 2. work for hire stole the footage! 3. it's a solo artist working on completing an album! had some personal issues as well as this One. 4. amount of VIDEO WORK generated from the new director/producer/shooter preventing audio clients from being able to book time to finish album projects such as this one, but client ok with that, he likes to take his time. 5. people are copying the video and extracting the audio! ( but i guess that should be allowed, right?) after all, what's his is everyones!!!!

February 25th, 2007, 05:43 AM	#16
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	The moral of this story is; Hire a kid to do a man's job... BTW Giuseppe, the video is still up and running. My advice would be delete it immediately.

March 7th, 2007, 12:28 AM	#20
Eric Stemen Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 378	This band or whatever should be stoked that this kid put his stuff up....if he didn't we wouldn't hear about them.....I don't care for them, but anyway i got to hear them along with seeing the work. I bet the footage that was shot was made to be shown also. I really doubt you all are losing money from people who watch this and may like the band enough to buy a cd or go to a show.....because people don't usually pay to see a music video.

March 7th, 2007, 11:11 PM	#23
Eric Stemen Major Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 378	Ok, so what it comes down to is this is guess. You joined this message bored just to complain(hey, every message board needs an anoying person) Which in turn gets more people to see the band because this thread stays at the top(thanks to people like me that say you make no since).....so ughhhhhhh good job, your getting your band noticed, but i doubt anyone here is ripping the audio off( I still stand by my original statement that the band doesn't sound that great to me, but i do give them props for being able to do what they do.).

March 7th, 2007, 11:34 PM	#24
Daniel Gast Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 69	Edward, one thing that bugs me is that your grammer is horrid. It doesn't look professional to use such grammer, and definately doesn't make other people take you very seriously. Now, I have no doubts that what you're saying is true...there are just better ways of doing it than typing like a 15 year old. :) love __________________ Dan Gast JD Video Productions

March 8th, 2007, 01:25 AM	#25
Jad Meouchy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 663	this is a joke, right? if the song's not copyrighted, it can't be stolen because it's not owned :)

March 8th, 2007, 01:25 PM	#26
Edward Tomecko Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cleveland, ohio Posts: 55	Thanks, daniel. I didn't join up to complain! I think this just got out of hand. I do believe the point was made. I have learned alot from this forum. Take care guys!

March 8th, 2007, 03:13 PM	#28
Daniel Gast Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Miami, Florida, USA Posts: 69	Did I misspell grammar? Dangit... [EDIT: And definitely...] ;) love __________________ Dan Gast JD Video Productions

March 16th, 2007, 01:04 AM	#29
Adam Bray Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston/Austin Posts: 394	Ego Ed, You hired the kid. Call him and make your complaints with him. Not here. Go call your attorney and complain to him. This is not the place.

March 16th, 2007, 11:06 AM	#30
Mike Andrade Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 136	I agree. No one here is going to steal this artist's material nor do most of us care. I'm pretty sure the concensus is that we are all here to discuss the creative/technical aspects of DV. This is no place for this kind of drama. Send him a c & d letter IF its copyrighted material and keep this crap off of this forum. __________________ Mike A