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Old March 14th, 2014, 03:25 PM   #526
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The dark sky above the city skyline and the metal structure along the highway seem to have more noise than I get with similar lighting conditions with my 1080p Sony CX760V. Does it seem a little noisy to anyone else?

I know my claim that it is noisier than my CX760V isn't particularly valid since I didn't shoot the exact same scene with the same exposure settings to do a valid A/B comparison. I'm just going by what I am used to seeing when shooting city skylines at night, which is one of my main video interests.

Hopefully this isn't characteristic of the AX100. I want one and am hoping there are no major flaws. Haven't seen any yet in the recent videos posted, but this one has me a little worried. But the noise isn't so bad as to be a deal breaker.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 03:35 PM   #527
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I think it will be fine Dale. Remember that YouTube compression can also add lots of apparent noise in scenes like this. Unless we have the native file, it's difficult to say this was camera noise as opposed to compression artifacts from YouTube.

We'll know before too long.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 04:03 PM   #528
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Thanks, Ken. It very well could be YouTube and not the camcorder.

I'm looking forward to being able to see actual footage directly out of the camera when those who pre-ordered get theirs and start shooting and posting. Hopefully within a week or so.
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Old March 15th, 2014, 11:40 AM   #529
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Some beautiful color & clarity from this night shot. I suspect, based on this video, the native clips are very clean. Truly amazing that something this small puts out this kind of video!

BTW, even though the first frame that shows here is the same as the other video I posted, it's a totally different clip. I'm not sure why the posted frame is the same.

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Old March 15th, 2014, 07:40 PM   #530
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translated text from the above video:

FDR-AX100 test shot (2) 4K Handycam hen night view

To perform cut editing in Sony Movie Studio Platimum the XAVC 4K taken by FDR-AX100,
and conducted youtube write in 4K resolution.
Active mode ON, image stabilization has been walking normally.

Edit: the file/stream properties are 3840x2160 - 23,97 p with ~ 17,8 Mbit/sec

Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.1
Format settings, CABAC : Nein
Format settings, ReFrames 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 2min 58s
Bit rate : 17,7 Mbps
Width : 3 840 Pixel
Height : 2160 Pixel
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : variabel
Frame rate : 23,976 FPS
Minimum frame rate 23,974 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 24,590 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : progressiv

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Old March 16th, 2014, 09:25 AM   #531
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First indoor close-up I've seen at 2160p:

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Old March 16th, 2014, 03:30 PM   #532
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there are a lot of AX 100 files from "misodo" on Youtube in the last day...
the person shot and load up faster, as I can download ....*g*

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SONY FDR-AX100 4K動画テスト 120p ハイフレームレート撮影 :
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It is to those exported by editing length of 5 times to (24p) in Movie Studio Platinum attached what 4K camera of Sony, was shot in 120p FDR-AX100.

Select the image quality and image size from the Menu first, the method of 120p high-speed shooting, and then changed to "XAVC S HD" the recording method. Then it is OK to select the shooting mode from the Menu, by selecting a high-speed recording.
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hmmm... is the 120p feature now real including in the FDR-AX100 ??
In the european Sony-sites under specifikations... I found it not ...

in the past it gives (a short time) a official Sony video how tells this
but this was imho soon again removed ..

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Old March 16th, 2014, 04:09 PM   #533
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I think the 120P is 1280x720 so slowed down to 24P in edit. Of courses YouTube will then convert to 30P !!!

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Old March 16th, 2014, 04:37 PM   #534
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I think Ron is correct, that it's 720p, so it's not nearly as sharp as 1080 or 4K... but 120fps continuous shooting even at reduced quality might be another handy feature to have! I know that was one of the things with the FZ200 that seemed like it might be kinda cool, even if I didn't have an immediate use.

The short high frame rate clips that Sony has historically let you shoot were also lower resolution, AND they were SHORT, at just a few seconds! Sort of useless because of the short duration, a continuous clip would be far more practical!
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Old March 16th, 2014, 11:55 PM   #535
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Here is one of the AX100 that impressed me. When the guy is following the little girl around, the camera never looses focus. (Of course he may have edited out sections where it lost focus. (I saw some GH4 videos where the camera lost focus and had to re-focus several times. That concerned me about the GH4. It was a pre-production model, so maybe the production model and firmware will be better in that regard.)

The shots in the house/apartment in this video are bright and evenly lit. I wonder if he used video lights? Or maybe the AX100 produce can produce bright, clean video indoors?


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Old March 17th, 2014, 02:43 AM   #536
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For whatever it is worth, Amazon USA is claiming a release date of March 21 with a note warning about short supply...

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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:17 AM   #537
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The shots in the house/apartment in this video are bright and evenly lit. I wonder if he used video lights?

Sony FDR AX100 Video test - YouTube
You can see a flat panel light in front of the cardboard box dolls house and I wonder if there is one somewhere shooting up at the ceiling. It is the best video so far of the FDR-AX100. Similar characteristics I have found with my FDR-AX1 in that downscaled 4K is better than 1080P. Not sure how he downscaled though but with Edius Lacsos3 it is very nice. Not sure if the motion blur in places is because of 30P or YouTube !!!

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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:30 AM   #538
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there are a lot of AX 100 files from "misodo" on Youtube in the last day...
the person shot and load up faster, as I can download ....*g*

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SONY FDR-AX100 4K動画テスト 120p ハイフレームレート撮影 : SONY FDR-AX100 4K動画テスト 120p ハイフレー*レート撮影 ス*ー再生 - YouTube
translated:
It is to those exported by editing length of 5 times to (24p) in Movie Studio Platinum attached what 4K camera of Sony, was shot in 120p FDR-AX100.

Select the image quality and image size from the Menu first, the method of 120p high-speed shooting, and then changed to "XAVC S HD" the recording method. Then it is OK to select the shooting mode from the Menu, by selecting a high-speed recording.
I asked this guy if it was a burst mode but he said he filmed for over 20 seconds, If it is continuous that will be awesome.

Has anyone seen if it is a touchscreen auto focus?
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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:48 AM   #539
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For whatever it is worth, Amazon USA is claiming a release date of March 21 with a note warning about short supply...

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Not sure if that date is going to be met. I have it on order with them and it was placed on the first day ordering was available. I had also anticipated picking it up at a Sony Store (which ever got it in first).

But what's unusual about Amazon is that there is still no ETA from them and they're only saying they still can't get an accurate fix on the delivery date. What's more interesting is that none of the Sony stores have them and I've been told they're not even in the warehouses. So there seems to be some delay going on.

With the RX10, I picked it up in a Sony store on the exact day of its release. So this is certainly different and I'm not sure if it's due to short supply or not.
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Here is one of the AX100 that impressed me. When the guy is following the little girl around, the camera never looses focus. (Of course he may have edited out sections where it lost focus. (I saw some GH4 videos where the camera lost focus and had to re-focus several times. That concerned me about the GH4. It was a pre-production model, so maybe the production model and firmware will be better in that regard.)

The shots in the house/apartment in this video are bright and evenly lit. I wonder if he used video lights? Or maybe the AX100 produce can produce bright, clean video indoors?
Dale, somewhere I saw a 4K version of that video with only his little girl. It did not include that opening piece. It was very impressive.

I've noticed the same thing regarding the GH4 videos thus far. It appears that focus misses from time to time. It's also possible this is something that will be tweaked when production units become available.
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