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Old September 27th, 2015, 01:58 PM   #1
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Picture Profile - Help

So I have looked on this forum along with dvxuser and have found many custom picture profiles that I can use, but not sure which ones are the best or which ones are finalized. I am looking for 2 picture profiles, so I hope someone can help or direct me to a final version.

1) A picture profile that is flat and best for color grading?


2) A picture profile that is best for delivering a DVD on site as is?

All help is very appreciated, thanks in advance!
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Old September 28th, 2015, 01:16 AM   #2
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theres a very good sony pxw-x70 user group on facebook. join it and youll find your answer there. jody eldred
is extremely knowledgeable on this camera.
PP2 with a few tweaks he recommends for a good overall picture.

on your first profile, the camera as it is without even using a profile is said to be a flat image.

good luck.
youll find alot of users on this group on fb glad to help you.
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Old September 28th, 2015, 10:03 AM   #3
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I agree with the suggestion to check out the FaceBook group for the X70, and also with the Jody Eldred general use PP suggestion there.

The camera does not have a Log option so cannot shoot *super* flat, but hereís about the closest you can come. This is definitely flatter than turning off the Picture Profiles. Just take any PP that you donít plan to use, and make these changes:

Black Level: +15 (Maximum black lift the camera will do)
Gamma: Rec709 (youíd think the Cine options would be flatter, but no)
Black Gamma: High, +7 (again, maximum black lift)
Knee: This is the trickiest part. This used Manual with Point at 75% and Slope at 0 - Iím still tweaking this, but you cannot use both a low Point and a minus Slope. Iím still trying out + values on Slope, which seems counterintuitive but seems to help.
Color Mode: ITU709
Saturation: 0, but this could be lowered if desired
Color Phase: +1 (but Iím still tweaking - +2 might be better)
Color Revision: I use all the custom settings Paul Anderegg posted here months ago for Rec709. Let me know if you canít find them and Iíll repost.
Detail (and Crispening): 0

I leave everything else at stock settings. I do manually white balance, and try to make sure nothing of any consequence subject-wise is above 100 on the Histogram, which I leave on all the time.

This also shows the shallow DOF possible even on a sunny day with the 1 inch sensor: lens is wide open (required using 0 or -3 Gain and ND1 or 2 to do so), 60p, 125 Iris, about 15 feet from subjects, zoomed in quite a bit, trees and soccer net in background are pretty far away. This was handheld (active stabilization), 1080p, was just a still frame exported from FCPX then resized to half size. Obviously the right part of the frame is the ungraded out-of-camera look, with the left part after simple grading in FCPX to get a more saturated, warm, sunny look.

I don't really see many others shooting flat like this with the X70, so if you figure out better settings than these please pass the findings along! Hope this helps.
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