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Old June 2nd, 2017, 06:12 AM   #1
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Sony PXW-Z150 or Panasonic hc-x1

Hi, not sure where to post this.
A friend of mine is changing from his PMW320 to something a bit lighter in weight.
He records weddings and can't make his mind up between these two cameras.
Sony PXW-Z150 or Panasonic HC-X1.
I don't own any of the above so can't advise myself.

Any thoughts and thanks in advance.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 09:40 AM   #2
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I own the ux180 and I can't imagine image wise they're that different. I believe they use the same sensor.
Off the top of my head the key differences are:

Z150:
the good: 422 color
the bad lens range and some control buttons are on top making them hard to access on a tripod.

Panasonic
the good: lens range, touch screen, 120fps slowmo, codec
the bad: no internal 422, I'm not keen on their menu and some of it's usability

For wedding work it will come down to a subjective decision which can only be determined by hands on use and style of filming. But for me the lens range is more important than internal 422.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 09:59 AM   #3
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Thank you Pete, much appreciated.

Picture quality wise, maybe not much difference between the two?

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Old June 2nd, 2017, 07:01 PM   #4
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Re: Sony PXW-Z150 or Panasonic hc-x1

I don't have either but the main difference for me is the Z150 is only 30P UHD and the UX180/HC-X1 is 60P UHD
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 12:29 AM   #5
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OK, thanks Ron.
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The Z150 will give you a 1.7x UHD oversampled sensor readout. It actually reads 5472 x 3080 (16.9 MP) from the sensor and scales that to UHD. So, the Z150 puts out and extremely detailed 4k.

The HC-X1 only does a simple 1:1 4k readout (1x) readout. Its a nice picture but not as detailed as the Z150.

The Z150 will have a free new firmware update this month that will add new 3 modes of HLG (hybrid log gamma) I saw this at NAB, pretty sweet. This will go way beyond that normal 6-7 stops of rec709 profiles and give you probably 10-11-ish stops of dynamic range.

Its true, the Z150's menu button is in the worst possible place. The cameras image processing looks fantastic though.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 09:07 AM   #7
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The Z150 will give you a 1.7x UHD oversampled sensor readout. It actually reads 5472 x 3080 (16.9 MP) from the sensor and scales that to UHD. So, the Z150 puts out and extremely detailed 4k.

The HC-X1 only does a simple 1:1 4k readout (1x) readout. Its a nice picture but not as detailed as the Z150.

The Z150 will have a free new firmware update this month that will add new 3 modes of HLG (hybrid log gamma) I saw this at NAB, pretty sweet. This will go way beyond that normal 6-7 stops of rec709 profiles and give you probably 10-11-ish stops of dynamic range.

Its true, the Z150's menu button is in the worst possible place. The cameras image processing looks fantastic though.
I think the HC-X1 1" sensor has 8.79 Mpixel effective for UHD compared to Z150 quoted 14.2 The pixels of course are bigger than the Z150 so may have a little better low light performance too.

Few other differences HC-X1 will record true 4K has touch focus etc too. I had seriously looked at upgrading to the HC-X1 from my FDR-AX1 but bought the GH5 instead. For me UHD60P was a must so the Z150 was off the list I also wanted touch focus as my experience with the FDR-AX1 made it clear focusing in UHD is very critical and touch auto has proved very effective with all my other little Sony's and also now the GH5.
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Old June 3rd, 2017, 04:05 PM   #8
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Re: Sony PXW-Z150 or Panasonic hc-x1

Here is some UX180 1080p real world night ENG footage, mostly nat light.

OnScene.TV | Texas

And here is my archive of 4K Z150 night ENG footage.

PXW-Z150 4K night ENG examples

If I did not need built in live streaming, I would go for the Panasonic. It has much more extensive color matrix adjustments and that sweet 20x zoom. It is a bit bigger, bulkier, and has no 4:2:2, but 4K 60p is sweet. :-)

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Old June 3rd, 2017, 06:09 PM   #9
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Thank you guys for all the info.
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