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Old September 25th, 2015, 03:01 PM   #46
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Here is some footage I just shot, handheld, just the camera and lens, LED used at the end. This is with the 28-135, mostly shot in autofocus. Not much ENG specific footage being posted, so thought I would put some in this post.

The EVF is soo much crisper and has more dynamic range than the LCD, I will be adding that new ENG eyecup to this sucker. How do I keep nose prints (and snot!) off of the LCD when using the EVF? :)

https://youtu.be/ODOVxqTdvpI
Good luck trying to find a better eyecup - sony don't make one and i'm still looking - you are right they evf is way way better than the lcd, especially judging focus - even with a swivi loupe!
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Old September 25th, 2015, 11:07 PM   #47
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The A7s LCD is too black, causes me to overexpose. See below for the new Hoodman eyecup, WITH eye sensor function retained. :)

Hoodman Hoodeye Eyecup for Sony Alpha a7, a7R, a7S, and a7 HEYES
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Old September 26th, 2015, 07:07 AM   #48
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Aaah now that's what I've been looking for all this time - not out yet though?

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Old September 26th, 2015, 12:03 PM   #49
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giz a shout pete when in stock somewhere got the a7sii on order wex
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Old September 29th, 2015, 04:03 AM   #50
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Here is another low light ENG scene. The very end is a gain up to maximum ISO. I am having a very hard time focusing with the EVF, might be the loss of resolution from the extensive need for digital zoom with only a 135mm lens.

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Old September 29th, 2015, 06:37 PM   #51
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Are you in crop mode or FF in this video Paul.
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Old September 29th, 2015, 07:50 PM   #52
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That is all in full frame.........thinking about experimenting with crop mode at high ISO and digital zoom, just to see how much of an increase in noise and grain structure there is. I am finding that the footage looks better the HIGHER I gain up.......so much dynamic range in this puppy.

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Old September 30th, 2015, 02:04 AM   #53
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Crop mode really gives me the reach when I need it and this was a big factor in going the A7s and 135mm lens for me.
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Old September 30th, 2015, 02:23 AM   #54
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I just did some crop mode testing a few ago. The crop mode has a better "digital zoom" than the full frame mode digital zoom zoomed to the same framing focal length. It seems like all Sony cameras, it digital zooms in on the record resolution setting, and NOT the actual sensor pixels. My PXW-X70 performs digital zoom MUCH MUCH better in 4K mode than in 720 or 1080. Your no better off using digital (not ClearImage) zoom than simply cropping in post with a Sony. Wish I could quick toggle APC-C mode.......but really, in ENG, do you really need to be at 28mm instantly when you were just reaching for maximum zoom? Maybe if you were attacked by a Cheetah. :)

I am going to maybe pick up a SELP18200 in the $500-600 range to play with when I find one on eBay.

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Old September 30th, 2015, 03:31 AM   #55
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The 18-200 is really quite good, I have this and the image is great although the 135mm is sharper but would anyone really notice, I doubt it.
I just want to add that the 28-135mm covers the same length as the 18-200mm.
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Old October 9th, 2015, 06:17 AM   #56
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Just did my first A7s broadcast live shot with a reporter last night. Hooked up my little Sennheiser AVX, so convenient, and dimmed down my large LED to just about nothingness.......I was at something like 20000 ISO? The reporter said that she needed more light, she was used to being hit with illumination necessary for a crappy JVC ProHD camera. One issue I ran into was trying to white balance my reporter.......have to go into still photo mode, really?

Anyway, when I figure out how to edit a Windows .wtc (media center) file in FCPX, I will post the live shot, but for now, what it looked like below.
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Old October 9th, 2015, 10:47 AM   #57
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Thank you Handbrake! Here it is.

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Old October 11th, 2015, 07:15 PM   #58
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Nice job. So it can be used as a ENG camera with no problem.

I like my Sony (A5100) because for a small, entry-level E-mount camera, it can record great video like a professional camera that costs thousands of dollars. I used to be a Panasonic/Canon guy but now, I prefer Sony cameras.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 12:39 AM   #59
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Looks great Paul. Is that REC709?

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Old October 12th, 2015, 01:40 AM   #60
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PP5 Cine 1, with a little in camera saturation bump and -2 on the master black. The REC709 PP4 looks a bit too cartoonish to me, too colorful.

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