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Old April 1st, 2009, 07:24 PM   #1
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Just came from a pre-NAB meeting with Sony in Brazil.
They will show PDWF800 in Las Vegas. Same as 700, plus 24p, over and under cranking, all XDCAM formats (SD and HD) and some bells and wistles.
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Old April 1st, 2009, 07:54 PM   #2
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well, that's very good news.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 02:13 AM   #3
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just another april-joke?
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 06:47 AM   #4
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No april joke. It was a Sony engineer with a Sony power point presentation.
There was a photo and a lot of specs.
And some nice other products.
We will see...
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We have received confirmation from Sony as well. It is a real product that will show at NAB. No real details other than what Gerson posted.
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Old April 5th, 2009, 03:09 PM   #6
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Amusing since these are the same specs I predicted when the 700 first came out as a sister camera. Like I've always said, they always release XDCAM cameras in two's, but in the 700's case they had to be a bit more careful about treading on toes.
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Old April 6th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #7
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Any details about frame rates, codecs, data rates or price point?
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Old April 7th, 2009, 06:56 PM   #8
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Hi Brad,
All XDCAM HD 18, 25 and 35 and 50 422, IMX and DVCAM standards. All 1080 and 720, 50 and 60, and NTSC and PAL. Plus 24p. No price point. No 60p.
There will be some nice features, like a focus assistant (zoom in the image) and other I can´t remenber.
It´s a 700 full loaded with features, plus Cinealta logo and 24p.
It´s the end of F900.
They will show a 9000 HDCAM SR one piece camcorder too. But only a mockup. And you can imagine the price.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 09:30 PM   #9
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No 60p.
There will be some nice features, like a focus assistant (zoom in the image) and other I can´t remenber.
It´s a 700 full loaded with features, plus Cinealta logo and 24p.
It´s the end of F900.

Thanks Gerson,

that all sounds interesting but no 60P? I've already got focus assist on my viewfinder, the only reason I'd consider trading up is if the new camera offered overcranking. The 700 is a pretty nice camera as is, I guess 24p is important for the US market or if you're shooting for a film out. As far as the f900 goes I thought 700 ended it, Sony has just held back the 24p to soften the blow.

BTW you can already do some pretty good slomo in the 720 domain using the 60p available now in the 700, it's just that you've got to slow it down in post.

It will be interesting to see the details release date and pricepoint when all is revealed at NAB.

Thanks for the heads up!
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Old April 9th, 2009, 04:59 PM   #10
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A one word mention of the "PDW-F800" is noted in a Sony brochure.
See page 3 of brochure, right-hand column, bullet point *4.
Click on link below.
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Old April 11th, 2009, 05:47 PM   #11
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The PDW-F800 will also feature a filter wheel. 24P with over/under cranking. Not much different than the 700.

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Old April 11th, 2009, 06:08 PM   #12
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Pretty much the specs I predicted when they released the 700. Like I always said, they always release these cameras in two's. This one has just taken a bit longer to materialise.

For those that wonder where the extra money goes, let me just remind you that the only difference between the PDW-510 and PDW-530 was an extra filter wheel and IMX50 recording and there was a £10k price difference.

Sounds like the same kind of product separation between the 700 and 800.
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Old April 12th, 2009, 02:05 PM   #13
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It´s the end of F900.
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Still long GOP codec though, so maybe not?
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Old April 12th, 2009, 02:14 PM   #14
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Does Long GOP really have any bearing on the matter though? Either it is as good as HDCAM as a substitute or it isn't. There isn't really any half way. From what I've seen I don't think that HDCAM really offers anything above the long GOP 50mb/s codec. In fact it offers less, especially in terms of resolution.

So, okay it is long GOP, but it offers a much better workflow and better resolution capabilities. The real question is whether the 700's camera head is better. Probably not. The F900 is razor sharp, perhaps too much even when the detail is turned off!
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From what I've seen I don't think that HDCAM really offers anything above the long GOP 50mb/s codec.
Where did you see that? I've never heard anyone say they thought XDCam was a better codec than HDCam.
Surely for fast moving and highly detailed subjects the I-frame codecs are superior?
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