1080p? at DVinfo.net

Max Kaiser · August 22nd, 2006, 11:45 AM

I'm confused about the 1080p question. To my knowledge, the 330 does not qualify as a 1080p camera because it is 1440x1080 - correct? Sorry if this is a truly ignorant question!

Alister Chapman · August 22nd, 2006, 11:56 AM

The F330/F350 is as 1080P as any HDCAM or HDV camcorder as they all record only 1440x1080 pixels. On playback these are scaled to 1920x1080. The progressive images on the F330/F350 are created using interlace CCD's, some may argue that this means that the camera is not progressive because of this. However my experience with the F350 is that the progressive images it produces are true progressive frames at the same resolution as the interlace frames.

Greg Boston · August 22nd, 2006, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

The F330/F350 is as 1080P as any HDCAM or HDV camcorder as they all record only 1440x1080 pixels. On playback these are scaled to 1920x1080.

Some HDV camera CCDS don't even record a true 1440, they use horizontal pixel shift. The F330/350 however, is a true 1440X1080 CCD.

Sony's high end HDC1500 records a 'true' 1920X1080 and true 60P. The body alone costs $90K.

-gb-

Simon Wyndham · August 22nd, 2006, 06:45 PM

Not even HDCAM is 1920x1080. The camera head on an F900 might be. But what gets laid down to tape is only 1440x1080.

Only HDCAM SR as a format is 1920x1080.

Greg Boston · August 22nd, 2006, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Wyndham

Not even HDCAM is 1920x1080. The camera head on an F900 might be. But what gets laid down to tape is only 1440x1080.

Only HDCAM SR as a format is 1920x1080.

If you're referring to my post, I should have clarified that the HDC1500 is not a camcorder. It's a camera head and going to HDCAM SR as you alluded to, it lays down a true 1920X1080. There's no upsampling or pixel shifting because the CCDs are native 1920X1080.

-gb-

Simon Wyndham · August 23rd, 2006, 06:18 AM

Sorry Greg, I should be more cohesive. I wasn't trying to correct you, but just make a general point that many people forget about the higher end HDCAM cameras compared to the lower end.

August 22nd, 2006, 11:45 AM	#1
Max Kaiser Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bellingham, WA Posts: 66	1080p? I'm confused about the 1080p question. To my knowledge, the 330 does not qualify as a 1080p camera because it is 1440x1080 - correct? Sorry if this is a truly ignorant question! __________________ ---------------- Max Kaiser Director, Hand Crank Films http://www.handcrankfilms.com

August 22nd, 2006, 11:56 AM	#2
Alister Chapman Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire, UK Posts: 4,957	The F330/F350 is as 1080P as any HDCAM or HDV camcorder as they all record only 1440x1080 pixels. On playback these are scaled to 1920x1080. The progressive images on the F330/F350 are created using interlace CCD's, some may argue that this means that the camera is not progressive because of this. However my experience with the F350 is that the progressive images it produces are true progressive frames at the same resolution as the interlace frames. __________________ Alister Chapman, Film-Maker/Stormchaser http://www.xdcam-user.com/alisters-blog/ My XDCAM site and blog. http://www.hurricane-rig.com

August 22nd, 2006, 06:45 PM	#4
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Not even HDCAM is 1920x1080. The camera head on an F900 might be. But what gets laid down to tape is only 1440x1080. Only HDCAM SR as a format is 1920x1080.

August 23rd, 2006, 06:18 AM	#6
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	Sorry Greg, I should be more cohesive. I wasn't trying to correct you, but just make a general point that many people forget about the higher end HDCAM cameras compared to the lower end.