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Old November 19th, 2006, 04:41 AM   #16
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Basically I think Simon is referring to the main differences i.e:

HD/SDI out, BNC timecode I/O, Overcrank mode = Broadcast
Component out, cheaper price = Corporate

But don't take that as one can't be used for the other because they can; simple as that.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 04:58 AM   #17
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Thanks Alister (and Nigel!)

I am rarely going to do multi camera work so I think I made the right choice (and used the savings to buy the 20x hd lens)

By the way Nigel, you can use the XD as a standard DV device for NLE systems that dont have XD compatibility in them (of course only for SD not ND)
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Old November 19th, 2006, 05:00 AM   #18
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My reasons were pretty much exactly as Alister described. No need to spend money on features that won't be needed, especially in the low level corporate/industrial sector.

Alister, have you tried the STD gamma with the new firmware? I notice that the default knee point has now been lowered to 85%.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 05:21 AM   #19
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Simon,

How easy is to update the firmware?
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Old November 19th, 2006, 06:09 AM   #20
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So Phil, did you get your lens issue taken care of yet?

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Old November 19th, 2006, 06:13 AM   #21
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lens issue? you mean what i described with the stock k autofocus lens?

I didnt buy that one, I went with the 20x canon HD lens.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 06:25 AM   #22
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I mentioned wide angle adaptors before, I used to have one for my Beta SX, it was v good quality, but not zoom through.

All I need is something I can just have in my bag when I need to shoot something a little wider, spur of the moment stuff. I can't afford a proper HD wide angle and will hire in for each specific job. But as my current project is SD, and a lot will still be SD for a while. I would consider a 1/2 SD wide angle but I am still keen for just having a wangle adaptor just in my bag...can anyone recommend any for the 82mm filter thread of my lens?

Am sure Century do one, as I have hired a fish eye from them before that was 82mm bayonet.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 06:34 AM   #23
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lens issue? you mean what i described with the stock k autofocus lens?

I didnt buy that one, I went with the 20x canon HD lens.
Oh, ok Phil. From your post above I thought you were complaining about the back focus issue and then going on to say that you bought the lens on Alister's recommendation. Didn't realize you were talking about two different lenses at that point.

Anyway, the K lens has an auto FB routine as I described so you weren't getting a fair representation of that lens if it wasn't set properly.

Looks like you're all set then. If you need to do the firmware update, review the related thread here in the XDCAM forum. One of the posts has a Word document file attached and the instructions are exactly correct.

Not at all difficult to do.

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Old November 19th, 2006, 06:38 AM   #24
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I mentioned wide angle adaptors before, I used to have one for my Beta SX, it was v good quality, but not zoom through.

All I need is something I can just have in my bag when I need to shoot something a little wider, spur of the moment stuff. I can't afford a proper HD wide angle and will hire in for each specific job. But as my current project is SD, and a lot will still be SD for a while. I would consider a 1/2 SD wide angle but I am still keen for just having a wangle adaptor just in my bag...can anyone recommend any for the 82mm filter thread of my lens?

Am sure Century do one, as I have hired a fish eye from them before that was 82mm bayonet.
We used a Century Optics .8 WA on my lens at a recent shoot. It attached over the end of the lens using three thumb screws. To prevent damage to the finish on the lens, we wrapped it with gaffer's tape several times which also helped enlarge the diameter so that we didn't have to turn the screws so far to get it on and off. This was an SD adapter and performed quite well.

Just FYI,

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Old November 19th, 2006, 06:45 AM   #25
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Thanks Greg,

Which lens did you mount it on and do you by any chance know which model adaptor it was? I am also assuming I don't want an adaptor for IF lenses?

The info about the back focus not being set on the stock lens if very interesting. I have emailed the company who demonstrated it and told them they hadn't set it up properly. I made the right choice buying the "proper" canon HD lens, an extra 2.5 k but worth it for all the proper controls, proper macro, proper focus!
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Old November 19th, 2006, 10:09 AM   #26
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Simon: Gamma 1 is better with the new firmware. The lowered knee gives a better highlight roll-off, but I still much prefer all of the cine gammas. Looks like the knee on cine 3 has benn pulled down a little as well.

I have used my Optex 0.7/0.5 W.A adapter on my Canon 20x6.4. You use Macro to focus this lens and it is a very big lump of glass. It's excellent for SD, but at 0.5 it is rather too soft for HD especially at the edges. At 0.7 it's useable for the odd wide shot.
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Old November 19th, 2006, 10:18 AM   #27
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would either of these be a good bet?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._W_A_Lens.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

Also, if I decide to get an sd 1/2" W angle, what is the mount called for the f330 that i need to search for?
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Old November 19th, 2006, 12:24 PM   #28
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Phil,

I'm using a 82mm Red Eye on my F350 with Fuji 18X5.5 BERM, works fine but no zoom through. However with some practice you can zoom a bit and refocus using the macro focus ring.

Studiodaily.com just had a article on it.
http://www.studiodaily.com/studiomon...ssue/7289.html

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Old November 19th, 2006, 12:33 PM   #29
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Thanks Morton,

Is there any loss in sharpness at all?
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Old November 19th, 2006, 12:36 PM   #30
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Also, if I decide to get an sd 1/2" W angle, what is the mount called for the f330 that i need to search for?
1/2" lenses come in the Sony variety and the Panasonic/JVC variety. The ones marked as Pana/JVC will NOT work on the Sonys.

I have a Canon broadcast series 1/2" lens made for the DSR-300s, and it's superb. As 1/2" lenses go it's pretty rare (not many people wanted to spend $15k on a lens for a $11k camera).

If you can find one, a H9ax3.8 IRS or KRS is highly recommended from me. (what I have).
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