MXF Proxy viewers - use by customers?

Uli Mors · February 16th, 2007, 06:23 AM

http://www.sonybiz.net/biz/view/Show...=1167924783539

Its a "whole day" event - there is a stage with repeating "shows" with a whole XDCAM HD workflow - e.g. a kamera crew "in Alaska", a Studio somewhere else etc etc. We show how to work with XDCAM HD even thru the internet (transfering proxies and/or HD content, exchanging metadata etc.).

In a second part of each location ALL broadcast products rg. HD are shown (HDCAM SR, HDCAM, XDCAM HD, HDV , CRT and TFT Displays, Recorders).

There is an interoperability area showing the workflow with Apple Final Cut Pro, Avid Composer, Edius4 and of course SONY VEGAS 7.0

The event is free to anybody.

Uli

Paul Gale · February 17th, 2007, 03:12 AM

Thanks Uli,

Not sure I can make it - but would be good to if I could.

I look forward to the sample files :)

Oh, any chance you could also include a few short fast/slow motion shots too? Would be interested to see the results as I've not seen this yet.

Many thanks,

Paul.

Paul Gale · March 8th, 2007, 02:15 AM

Hi Uli,

Did you get a chance to create those MXF files? I'd love to get hold of a couple to experiment with :)

Thanks.

Uli Mors · March 8th, 2007, 05:52 AM

Hi ,

yes , I did - though i am not a PRO cameraman... ;-)

I´ve got some clips as

DVCAM 50i
DVCAM 25p
HD (35mbit/s) 50i

Since each disk file is ~200-300mb big, I dont want to upload everything - what are you interested most?

ULI

Steve Cahill · March 8th, 2007, 05:55 AM

There will be other vendors that will be offering XDCAM logging features. Take a look @ Imagine Products whose current offering is for the P2 HDLog

Paul Gale · March 8th, 2007, 06:04 AM

Thanks Uli,

Most interested in:

DVCAM 50i
and
HD (35mbit/s) 50i

Although if you did have say very short clips of each (size permitting), that would be fantastic. Proxy files and all would be cool - so I can view the footage in the Sony app and test it out. Is that possible? Not sure what you need to copy to the HDD to open it this way?

Did you get any over/under cranked footage?

Saying that - beggars can't be choosers and I'd be grateful for anything you have :)

Many thanks,

Paul.

Paul Gale · March 8th, 2007, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Cahill

There will be other vendors that will be offering XDCAM logging features. Take a look @ Imagine Products whose current offering is for the P2 HDLog

Their web site leaves a lot to be desired ;)

Have you heard anything specific about an MXF/proxy Windows based logger?

Uli Mors · March 8th, 2007, 06:54 AM

OK, I´ll upload DVCAM 50i first.

Unfortunately PDZ1 software does NOT allow opening folders on the harddrive (e.g. copying the whole XD HD Disc on the harddrive) - it always asks for a networked deck or iLink Connection...

Vegas works well with HARDDRIVE copies, dont know about FCP - just have a try.

I´ll post the link later.

uploading...
___________-

200mb @14kbit/s ...this takes some time.

Anybody who is interested, please send PN or email for the link.

Thanks

ULI

Uli Mors · March 8th, 2007, 11:11 AM

The file is up.

Paul Gale · March 8th, 2007, 01:30 PM

Hi Uli - can you send me the link please:

dvinfo at siliconpixel dot com

Thanks.

Paul Gale · March 9th, 2007, 01:58 AM

Thanks Uli - had a play and files are good. Vegas plays nicely with them from HHD as you mentioned. PDZ software doesn't but the viewer reads the proxy files OK. I use Premiere though - so I guess I should have a look at the (buggy?) Main Concept plugin. I'd like to go down the Matrox Axio route eventually but not sure what import/workflow options it offers for MXF files yet (I know it supports them but not how it works with the XDCAM cameras etc).

Any chance of an HD sample???

Thanks,

Paul.

Uli Mors · March 10th, 2007, 05:14 PM

Hi,

yes I can post it Monday... stay tuned.

uli

Paul Gale · March 11th, 2007, 04:09 AM

Thanks Uli, that's very good of you :)

Thierry Humeau · March 11th, 2007, 06:28 AM

For AVID users, the next version to be available at the end of march will offer tremendous and unified XDCAM & XDCAM HD support accross all products. Cannot tell you more for now but anyone who stuck to AVID will be happily surprised.

Thierry.

Bob Willis · March 12th, 2007, 08:08 AM

Thierry,
I do hope that Avid provides support for all XDCAM versions across its products. I am waiting to see what actually happens with each "version" of Avid's software however, since we have been promised support before, only to realize that it was limited support in Xpress Pro and unfinished for Media Composer.

It would be appropriate for Avid to at least provide proxy support for XDCAM in the Xpress line since they offer the product as an offline solution. It is all speculation anyway until the official product is released and Avid decides what support they will allow in each version and what to lock out.

March 8th, 2007, 05:55 AM	#20
Steve Cahill Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 321	There will be other vendors that will be offering XDCAM logging features. Take a look @ Imagine Products whose current offering is for the P2 HDLog __________________ Regards Steve

March 11th, 2007, 06:28 AM	#29
Thierry Humeau Telecam Films Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington DC Posts: 723	For AVID users, the next version to be available at the end of march will offer tremendous and unified XDCAM & XDCAM HD support accross all products. Cannot tell you more for now but anyone who stuck to AVID will be happily surprised. Thierry. __________________ Thierry Humeau, DoP Télécam Films www.telecamfilms.com

February 16th, 2007, 06:23 AM	#16
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	http://www.sonybiz.net/biz/view/Show...=1167924783539 Its a "whole day" event - there is a stage with repeating "shows" with a whole XDCAM HD workflow - e.g. a kamera crew "in Alaska", a Studio somewhere else etc etc. We show how to work with XDCAM HD even thru the internet (transfering proxies and/or HD content, exchanging metadata etc.). In a second part of each location ALL broadcast products rg. HD are shown (HDCAM SR, HDCAM, XDCAM HD, HDV , CRT and TFT Displays, Recorders). There is an interoperability area showing the workflow with Apple Final Cut Pro, Avid Composer, Edius4 and of course SONY VEGAS 7.0 The event is free to anybody. Uli

February 17th, 2007, 03:12 AM	#17
Paul Gale Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 425	Thanks Uli, Not sure I can make it - but would be good to if I could. I look forward to the sample files :) Oh, any chance you could also include a few short fast/slow motion shots too? Would be interested to see the results as I've not seen this yet. Many thanks, Paul.

March 8th, 2007, 02:15 AM	#18
Paul Gale Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 425	Hi Uli, Did you get a chance to create those MXF files? I'd love to get hold of a couple to experiment with :) Thanks.

March 8th, 2007, 05:52 AM	#19
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	Hi , yes , I did - though i am not a PRO cameraman... ;-) I´ve got some clips as DVCAM 50i DVCAM 25p HD (35mbit/s) 50i Since each disk file is ~200-300mb big, I dont want to upload everything - what are you interested most? ULI

March 8th, 2007, 06:04 AM	#21
Paul Gale Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 425	Thanks Uli, Most interested in: DVCAM 50i and HD (35mbit/s) 50i Although if you did have say very short clips of each (size permitting), that would be fantastic. Proxy files and all would be cool - so I can view the footage in the Sony app and test it out. Is that possible? Not sure what you need to copy to the HDD to open it this way? Did you get any over/under cranked footage? Saying that - beggars can't be choosers and I'd be grateful for anything you have :) Many thanks, Paul.

March 8th, 2007, 06:54 AM	#23
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	OK, I´ll upload DVCAM 50i first. Unfortunately PDZ1 software does NOT allow opening folders on the harddrive (e.g. copying the whole XD HD Disc on the harddrive) - it always asks for a networked deck or iLink Connection... Vegas works well with HARDDRIVE copies, dont know about FCP - just have a try. I´ll post the link later. uploading... ___________- 200mb @14kbit/s ...this takes some time. Anybody who is interested, please send PN or email for the link. Thanks ULI

March 8th, 2007, 11:11 AM	#24
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	The file is up.

March 8th, 2007, 01:30 PM	#25
Paul Gale Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 425	Hi Uli - can you send me the link please: dvinfo at siliconpixel dot com Thanks.

March 9th, 2007, 01:58 AM	#26
Paul Gale Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 425	Thanks Uli - had a play and files are good. Vegas plays nicely with them from HHD as you mentioned. PDZ software doesn't but the viewer reads the proxy files OK. I use Premiere though - so I guess I should have a look at the (buggy?) Main Concept plugin. I'd like to go down the Matrox Axio route eventually but not sure what import/workflow options it offers for MXF files yet (I know it supports them but not how it works with the XDCAM cameras etc). Any chance of an HD sample??? Thanks, Paul.

March 10th, 2007, 05:14 PM	#27
Uli Mors Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 565	Hi, yes I can post it Monday... stay tuned. uli

March 11th, 2007, 04:09 AM	#28
Paul Gale Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oxfordshire, UK Posts: 425	Thanks Uli, that's very good of you :)

March 12th, 2007, 08:08 AM	#30
Bob Willis Major Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 292	Thierry, I do hope that Avid provides support for all XDCAM versions across its products. I am waiting to see what actually happens with each "version" of Avid's software however, since we have been promised support before, only to realize that it was limited support in Xpress Pro and unfinished for Media Composer. It would be appropriate for Avid to at least provide proxy support for XDCAM in the Xpress line since they offer the product as an offline solution. It is all speculation anyway until the official product is released and Avid decides what support they will allow in each version and what to lock out.