FCP cannot re-import an XDCAM export..
 

Sorry guys...I have a feeling this might have been posted already, but I personally couldn't find any old posts.

We effortlessly import at least 10 XDCAM field discs (with multiple clips) a week without any issues. We use XDCAM Transfer along with FCP 5 & 6.

We hit a brick wall whenever we try to re-import a "mastered" XDCAM disc (we master back three 1/2 hr shows to a disc with different audio and gfx configs....a master, a split and a foreign version). For some reason, whenever I go to import one of the three files off this disc, it only imports approx 3 minutes (give or take a few seconds).

Why does material straight out of our cameras import fine, but the discs we create here have a problem?

Here are some kickers to the issue:

-Everything plays back fine in AVC mode.

-We HAVE imported clips well over 30 minutes long from field recordings.

-We tried disabling audio tracks in the Transfer tool

-We tried importing footage straight from the transfer software to a drive...FCP wasn't even launched.

We tried all of the above as a means of troubleshooting, but to no avail....

For what it's worth, the file compression is HDV 1080 25cbr, although I doubt that has anything to do with this.

Any clues here? Is there any other info I might provide you guys?

That's a strange one. Do you get any error messages? Is it FCP5 or 6 causing this? I'm trying to obtain an answer from someone else. Will let you know if and when I get a response.

-gb-

There was a discussion on this over at LAFCPUG last year, and I believe there is a soft limit to how long clips can be that are written back to the disk.

I also have had this problem, and I just import via AV/C. I don't have this problem with clips that are shot with the camera. I don't know why.

Search LAFCPUG.org, or Andy Mees will know. Andy knows everything.

Also... and this is purely an administrative comment... you'll do better with your thread if you name it something like "XDCam re-import troubles, 25Mbit CBR - freezing up", and put the cursory note to the mods at the end of the message... not the other way around.

Greg..


No error message. XDCAM Transfer just stops like it normally does when it is complete. It's only ingesting 3 minutes of a 1/2 hr show. This problem occured initially on FCP 5.1. I tried to troubleshoot on FCP 6 but had the same exact issue.

See..yeah...you are experiencing the same thing. Clips from the camera can be long no problem, but re-ingesting an export is not happening!

AVC is an option of course, but this just does not seem right. Thanks for the input Mike...good to know it's not just a fluke.

I also get errors while exporting to disk, and blowing out the render files and re-rendering seems to fix that. Unfortunately, it can be an hours-long fix. No rhyme or reason to it, Sony tech support was stumped. Let's say I've been less than thrilled with the transfer software thus far.

-MW

Sorry Harley (and Mike!)

The best I can do is confirm that I have had this same problem reported to me too in the past. However when I tried to duplicate the issue I was unsuccessful. Here's my findings at the time:

so it's clearly not any kind of set limit.

... and Mike, I've had plenty of those Export Failed messages too. Same fix as you. Blow out the renders and re-export or check the "Recompress all frames" checkbox in the export dialog.

We are all eagerly awaiting the long long overdue update to this otherwise promising software. The trouble is that Sony have adopted a "we provide it for free so we're not obliged to anyone" approach. Frankly, I'd rather pay for it and then be owed some support.

Andy

Looking from the sideline. Is the name of the clip following the 'name convention' for MXF files? (like C0001.MXF or such).

affimative.

Andy..thanks for your reply.

This is really odd. I'm now leaning towards the possibility of us doing something wrong on export. I'm really out of answers.

Andy... you ever get over here, stateside?

Ok..

A few more updates...

I saw that someone suggested that XDCAM Transfer has issues sometimes with SAN MP (which we use). I quit SAN MP and wrote to a local drive instead. SAME ISSUE.

I had been using discs @ 25, so I tried a disc @ 35. SAME ISSUE.

Andy-

Our 25 Mbps shows were shot @ XDCAM 10801 60 25 and imported onto an HDV 1080i 60 timeline. We currently shoot on XDCAM 10801 60 35 and import it into a sequence with the same settings we shot at.

The exports of both will not re-import.

There is certainly an issue with SAN drivers. This has cropped up a few times now and can cause all kinds of import and export issues.

Harley,

This is the response I got from my technical contact at Sony America HQ.

So I would make sure that your decks (and camera/s) are all at firmware revision 1.6 to eliminate that as a cause.

regards,

-gb-