Various questions Sony HC1

Stu Holmes · October 9th, 2005, 12:06 PM

no sorry i don't know about the FX1.

The mode needed is just rotate the silver dial one click from 'tape' mode ! takes 1 second.
that's it - just the photo mode.

Philip Colmer · November 1st, 2005, 01:47 AM

I need to capture the raw m2t output from my HC1 ... but I also need to be able to specify the in & out points. The reason for this is because I want to be able to capture precise clips from the tape and not go through an editing process.

I can't use Premiere Pro because it doesn't use the raw streams. I can't use ConnectHD from Cineform because you can't specify in & out points - it just captures, as does CapDVHS.

I've tried using the Media Studio Pro 8 trial but (a) it keeps on blowing up when I try to run the capture tool and (b) when I have managed to get the tool working, it doesn't look like I can specify in & out points.

Can anyone make suggestions as to how I can achieve what I need to do?

--Philip

Danny Fye · November 1st, 2005, 02:11 AM

To get help with MSP8 go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mug-sw/

Or:

http://www.dmnforums.com/cgi-bin/dis...eadmediastudio

Danny Fye
www.dannyfye.com

Philip Colmer · November 1st, 2005, 09:45 AM

Sorry - I've just re-read my original posting and it was ambiguous in the meaning of the question :-).

I wasn't specifically asking for help about MSP8 - although if it can do what I want, that is a bonus.

I was, in general, asking for advice and suggestions on any tool that will allow me to capture the m2t stream but within specific in and out points.

Thanks.

--Philip

Matthew Groff · November 9th, 2005, 10:47 PM

I see according to this site (http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/ser...ductId=1001602 - look under specifications) that the HC1 can apparently read and playback 1080i50 tapes. Has anyone tried this feature? I'm thinking about using this as a deck for my Z1 and if I shoot 1080i50 HDV, it'd be nice to know that someone has tried this before. Additionally, would it be possible to monitor the 1080i50 signal (firewire out -> HC1 -> PAL/NTSC monitor)?

mg

Alexander Karol · November 9th, 2005, 11:21 PM

I believe you are correct. In fact, a lot of people have been using the HC1 as a deck. As a bonus, they get a handy vacation camcorder...a no-brainer for those with money. ;)

Pierre Barberis · November 10th, 2005, 12:04 AM

Compatibility goes both ways.
Nevertheless, given the size and robustness of the HC1, i dont think it would be adequate to use it as a deck for a professional harassing type of work...

Jung Kyu · November 17th, 2005, 06:00 AM

i use
auto exposure
color level 2up
sharpness level 1up
and i don't use white balance.
outdoor mode or auto color mode looked much better.

Phil Hamilton · November 18th, 2005, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jung Kyu

i use
auto exposure
color level 2up
sharpness level 1up
and i don't use white balance.
outdoor mode or auto color mode looked much better.

Do these settings work for you for regular 1080 60i or 24p conversion or both? I am very interested in running tests with my HC1 but would sure like to experiment with settings that seem to be tested and liked by the forum members. tks

Wolfgang Winne · November 19th, 2005, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jung Kyu

i use
auto exposure
color level 2up
sharpness level 1up
and i don't use white balance.
outdoor mode or auto color mode looked much better.

i put my camera HC1E on vectorscope, colorlevel +2 is very good. But sharpness +1.....factory setting is already too high, with high-contrast objects gives it already easy doubleknown...see on my test's the windpower picture.

the sites are in german, please babelfish to translate.....

http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/hc1_2.html (color level test)

http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/hc1_3.html (color test, windpowerpicture)

Hubert Hofer · December 3rd, 2005, 04:02 PM

hi,
please forgive this ignorant question but for all the tea in china I can not work out if the auto white balance is set every time the camera is switched on or each time recording is switched on. cheers

Andre De Clercq · December 4th, 2005, 06:02 AM

As soon as a camcorder is being switched on in camera mode, AWB tracking is active (lenscover removed) and stays active, also during recording. It will adapt the WB setting needed for the scene with a certain delay (about 10 seconds). Leaving yr can in rec. standby while walking with the lens pointed down towards e.g. the (yellow) sand will result in a blueish whitepoint shifts.

Hse Kha · December 7th, 2005, 07:26 PM

What is the minimum aperture of the lens? f8? f11?

In bright light, it seems to like the shutter speed of 125 (as opposed to 60), I guess because it feels that 60 will cause too much difraction with a smaller aperture?

Anyway if I choose manual shutter speed and set it myself, how can I know what aperture it has chosen? The only way I can find out is by shooting a clip and playing it with the Time Code Data displayed. But it is cumbersome...

Thanks.

Andre De Clercq · December 8th, 2005, 06:18 AM

At f11 (available?) diffraction will introduce reduced resolution with those small CCD structures. Especially when component HDV is being played it will be visible. A higher shutterspeed will introduce some more strobing which can be different (breakups?) with CMOS readout .

Reinaldo Marques · December 30th, 2005, 09:03 AM

I'm looking for edit software to transfer the mini DV tapes that I have from my previous Sony TR-20 to HDV on my HC1, and how to do it.I don't know if it's possible.
Thanks in advance for any help and Happy New Year.

November 1st, 2005, 01:47 AM	#32
Philip Colmer Tourist Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3	How best to capture m2t from HC1? I need to capture the raw m2t output from my HC1 ... but I also need to be able to specify the in & out points. The reason for this is because I want to be able to capture precise clips from the tape and not go through an editing process. I can't use Premiere Pro because it doesn't use the raw streams. I can't use ConnectHD from Cineform because you can't specify in & out points - it just captures, as does CapDVHS. I've tried using the Media Studio Pro 8 trial but (a) it keeps on blowing up when I try to run the capture tool and (b) when I have managed to get the tool working, it doesn't look like I can specify in & out points. Can anyone make suggestions as to how I can achieve what I need to do? --Philip

November 9th, 2005, 10:47 PM	#35
Matthew Groff Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 132	HC1 read 50i HDV tapes? I see according to this site (http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/ser...ductId=1001602 - look under specifications) that the HC1 can apparently read and playback 1080i50 tapes. Has anyone tried this feature? I'm thinking about using this as a deck for my Z1 and if I shoot 1080i50 HDV, it'd be nice to know that someone has tried this before. Additionally, would it be possible to monitor the 1080i50 signal (firewire out -> HC1 -> PAL/NTSC monitor)? mg

November 17th, 2005, 06:00 AM	#38
Jung Kyu Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 143	what is best manual setting for hc1 i use auto exposure color level 2up sharpness level 1up and i don't use white balance. outdoor mode or auto color mode looked much better.

December 3rd, 2005, 04:02 PM	#41
Hubert Hofer Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Torres Strait - Australia Posts: 76	HC1 auto white balance hi, please forgive this ignorant question but for all the tea in china I can not work out if the auto white balance is set every time the camera is switched on or each time recording is switched on. cheers

December 7th, 2005, 07:26 PM	#43
Hse Kha Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New England Posts: 195	HC1 - Two Quick Questions What is the minimum aperture of the lens? f8? f11? In bright light, it seems to like the shutter speed of 125 (as opposed to 60), I guess because it feels that 60 will cause too much difraction with a smaller aperture? Anyway if I choose manual shutter speed and set it myself, how can I know what aperture it has chosen? The only way I can find out is by shooting a clip and playing it with the Time Code Data displayed. But it is cumbersome... Thanks.

October 9th, 2005, 12:06 PM	#31
Stu Holmes Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 844	no sorry i don't know about the FX1. The mode needed is just rotate the silver dial one click from 'tape' mode ! takes 1 second. that's it - just the photo mode.

November 1st, 2005, 02:11 AM	#33
Danny Fye Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 318	To get help with MSP8 go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mug-sw/ Or: http://www.dmnforums.com/cgi-bin/dis...eadmediastudio Danny Fye www.dannyfye.com

November 1st, 2005, 09:45 AM	#34
Philip Colmer Tourist Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3	Sorry - I've just re-read my original posting and it was ambiguous in the meaning of the question :-). I wasn't specifically asking for help about MSP8 - although if it can do what I want, that is a bonus. I was, in general, asking for advice and suggestions on any tool that will allow me to capture the m2t stream but within specific in and out points. Thanks. --Philip

November 9th, 2005, 11:21 PM	#36
Alexander Karol Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 198	I believe you are correct. In fact, a lot of people have been using the HC1 as a deck. As a bonus, they get a handy vacation camcorder...a no-brainer for those with money. ;)

November 10th, 2005, 12:04 AM	#37
Pierre Barberis Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MANILA Philippines Posts: 117	Compatibility goes both ways. Nevertheless, given the size and robustness of the HC1, i dont think it would be adequate to use it as a deck for a professional harassing type of work...

December 4th, 2005, 06:02 AM	#42
Andre De Clercq Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 804	As soon as a camcorder is being switched on in camera mode, AWB tracking is active (lenscover removed) and stays active, also during recording. It will adapt the WB setting needed for the scene with a certain delay (about 10 seconds). Leaving yr can in rec. standby while walking with the lens pointed down towards e.g. the (yellow) sand will result in a blueish whitepoint shifts.

December 8th, 2005, 06:18 AM	#44
Andre De Clercq Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 804	At f11 (available?) diffraction will introduce reduced resolution with those small CCD structures. Especially when component HDV is being played it will be visible. A higher shutterspeed will introduce some more strobing which can be different (breakups?) with CMOS readout .

December 30th, 2005, 09:03 AM	#45
Reinaldo Marques Tourist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NEWARK USA Posts: 2	How to edit DV to HDV on HC1 I'm looking for edit software to transfer the mini DV tapes that I have from my previous Sony TR-20 to HDV on my HC1, and how to do it.I don't know if it's possible. Thanks in advance for any help and Happy New Year.