Capturing Question at DVinfo.net

Rodi Kaya · December 18th, 2005, 12:24 PM

I am un able to do a search, and this is my first post.
I would like to find out if my pc will be able to capture footage from the HC1.
The system is a Athlon xp 2400 (2000mhz) 1gb ram and lots of disk space.
I use Adobe Premier Pro 1.5.1

Thanks in advance

Fredrik-Larsson · December 18th, 2005, 03:04 PM

If you use Ilink convert down to SD there is no problem. For HDV you probably need Aspect HD. Direct capture using the normal HDV-driver isn't that good. In fact Adobe say there is some quality issue. Can't remember which thread I read it. I got a 2500+ and Aspect HD + Premiere and the playback of HDV isn't perfect but it works with only slight problems. I intend to upgrade...

Rodi Kaya · December 18th, 2005, 07:51 PM

Thanks for that info Fredrik, I have downloaded and installed a demo version of Aspect HD, Will tru capturing when i have the camera this week, but right now i am having trouble with playback, i can see the footage when im not playing otherwise i see a red cross on the monitor. Any ideas as to what is causing this?

David Newman · December 18th, 2005, 10:59 PM

Rodi,

What footage are you using? Sound like you don't have a camera/deck currently. If you have not capture with Aspect HD and have taken M2T files from online somewhere you will need to convert them to CineForm AVIs first (use HDLink.exe include with Aspect HD to convert M2T files to the far more widely compatible AVI.) Aspect HD capture directly to an AVI when hooked to a deck or camera.

John Yamamoto · December 19th, 2005, 07:10 AM

Hi, if just capture m2t to hard disk is simple task even a slow pc can capture DV will do, i use CapDVhs to do so on Xp with celeron 850, so not a problem , but re encode to other codec is depending on the speed of ur PC.
I use VirtualdubMpeg2 to trim and re encode to other format
JY

Rodi Kaya · December 19th, 2005, 12:02 PM

Hi guys

I have the camera now and have had no trouble so far capturing the video thanks to your help. AspectHD works great :-) I am using Adobe Premier and after effects.
The issue i have when i import into after effects is that the footage on screen is not the right aspect ratio, i have been tweaking with the settings but it seems to show the video compressed horizontally, i hope to figure this out

Fredrik-Larsson · December 19th, 2005, 12:08 PM

Neat! Do you have any problems in Premiere? Mine sometimes stutters the sound. But I can live with that until I buy myself a new PC.

Rodi Kaya · December 19th, 2005, 12:13 PM

Ok i got it now, for those experiencing the issue, in after effects go to "view", "view options", Click "Video Aspect ration correction"

Rodi Kaya · December 19th, 2005, 12:22 PM

Hi Fredrik,

I havent noticed any stuttering with audio, i have only been using it for less than an hour so i cant be sure, but video playback is much better than i had expected.

Thanks for the help

Fredrik-Larsson · December 19th, 2005, 12:32 PM

Yeah, playback is pretty good even on "older" systems. I think my problem might be that I have quite packed harddrives and the files might be fragmented. But at the moment I am just playing around so it's no big problem yet.

Rodi Kaya · December 19th, 2005, 02:49 PM

I am now noticing stuttering on video and audio when working with multiple HD streams, will be upgrading soon, fingers crossed.
Image quality on the HC1 is just great, will make my short film look extra good :D

Michael Liebergot · December 19th, 2005, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fredrik-Larsson

Yeah, playback is pretty good even on "older" systems. I think my problem might be that I have quite packed harddrives and the files might be fragmented. But at the moment I am just playing around so it's no big problem yet.

Fredrik, I see you aptured with Aspect HD from Cineform, but are you trying to work with the native M2T files on your timeline.
I work in Vegas, not Premiere, however most sytems will choke on the M2t file while trying to edit.
Have ApsectHD convert the file to the Cineform AVI, then edit this on your timeline. This should solve your problem.

Fredrik-Larsson · December 19th, 2005, 03:38 PM

I work with Cineform AVIs only. I use the "medium" quality at the moment. They play back fine but sometimes (not all the time) they freeze and stutter the sound. But I am using a processor that is below Cineform's recommended so I am fully aware of it. And like I said I have a lot of stuff on my harddrives so those captured files may be fragmented to. It's not a big problem and I will purchase a new system next year so I am quite sure that my problems will go away then.

December 18th, 2005, 12:24 PM	#1
Rodi Kaya New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	Capturing Question I am un able to do a search, and this is my first post. I would like to find out if my pc will be able to capture footage from the HC1. The system is a Athlon xp 2400 (2000mhz) 1gb ram and lots of disk space. I use Adobe Premier Pro 1.5.1 Thanks in advance

December 18th, 2005, 03:04 PM	#2
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	If you use Ilink convert down to SD there is no problem. For HDV you probably need Aspect HD. Direct capture using the normal HDV-driver isn't that good. In fact Adobe say there is some quality issue. Can't remember which thread I read it. I got a 2500+ and Aspect HD + Premiere and the playback of HDV isn't perfect but it works with only slight problems. I intend to upgrade... __________________ The Russian Captain (upcoming feature) http://trc-movie.blogspot.com/ My movies http://www.larssonfilm.com/

December 18th, 2005, 07:51 PM	#3
Rodi Kaya New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	Thanks for that info Fredrik, I have downloaded and installed a demo version of Aspect HD, Will tru capturing when i have the camera this week, but right now i am having trouble with playback, i can see the footage when im not playing otherwise i see a red cross on the monitor. Any ideas as to what is causing this? __________________ www.rodikaya.co.uk

December 18th, 2005, 10:59 PM	#4
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Rodi, What footage are you using? Sound like you don't have a camera/deck currently. If you have not capture with Aspect HD and have taken M2T files from online somewhere you will need to convert them to CineForm AVIs first (use HDLink.exe include with Aspect HD to convert M2T files to the far more widely compatible AVI.) Aspect HD capture directly to an AVI when hooked to a deck or camera. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman

December 19th, 2005, 07:10 AM	#5
John Yamamoto Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 94	any PC capturing Dv will be OK Hi, if just capture m2t to hard disk is simple task even a slow pc can capture DV will do, i use CapDVhs to do so on Xp with celeron 850, so not a problem , but re encode to other codec is depending on the speed of ur PC. I use VirtualdubMpeg2 to trim and re encode to other format JY

December 19th, 2005, 12:02 PM	#6
Rodi Kaya New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	Hi guys I have the camera now and have had no trouble so far capturing the video thanks to your help. AspectHD works great :-) I am using Adobe Premier and after effects. The issue i have when i import into after effects is that the footage on screen is not the right aspect ratio, i have been tweaking with the settings but it seems to show the video compressed horizontally, i hope to figure this out __________________ www.rodikaya.co.uk

December 19th, 2005, 12:08 PM	#7
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	Neat! Do you have any problems in Premiere? Mine sometimes stutters the sound. But I can live with that until I buy myself a new PC. __________________ The Russian Captain (upcoming feature) http://trc-movie.blogspot.com/ My movies http://www.larssonfilm.com/

December 19th, 2005, 12:13 PM	#8
Rodi Kaya New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	Ok i got it now, for those experiencing the issue, in after effects go to "view", "view options", Click "Video Aspect ration correction" __________________ www.rodikaya.co.uk

December 19th, 2005, 12:22 PM	#9
Rodi Kaya New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	Hi Fredrik, I havent noticed any stuttering with audio, i have only been using it for less than an hour so i cant be sure, but video playback is much better than i had expected. Thanks for the help __________________ www.rodikaya.co.uk

December 19th, 2005, 12:32 PM	#10
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	Yeah, playback is pretty good even on "older" systems. I think my problem might be that I have quite packed harddrives and the files might be fragmented. But at the moment I am just playing around so it's no big problem yet. __________________ The Russian Captain (upcoming feature) http://trc-movie.blogspot.com/ My movies http://www.larssonfilm.com/

December 19th, 2005, 02:49 PM	#11
Rodi Kaya New Boot Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	I am now noticing stuttering on video and audio when working with multiple HD streams, will be upgrading soon, fingers crossed. Image quality on the HC1 is just great, will make my short film look extra good :D __________________ www.rodikaya.co.uk

December 19th, 2005, 03:38 PM	#13
Fredrik-Larsson Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Malmö, Sweden Posts: 395	I work with Cineform AVIs only. I use the "medium" quality at the moment. They play back fine but sometimes (not all the time) they freeze and stutter the sound. But I am using a processor that is below Cineform's recommended so I am fully aware of it. And like I said I have a lot of stuff on my harddrives so those captured files may be fragmented to. It's not a big problem and I will purchase a new system next year so I am quite sure that my problems will go away then. __________________ The Russian Captain (upcoming feature) http://trc-movie.blogspot.com/ My movies http://www.larssonfilm.com/