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Jesse Hopkins January 5th, 2006 09:39 PM

HC1 Low Light question
 
I am thinking of ordering the HC1, but is the low light noise as bad as say, the low light noise on the old Hi-8 Handycams? I mean, would there be any hope of shooting at dusk or indoors with home lighting and getting smooth results?

Wolfgang Winne January 5th, 2006 11:31 PM

Here is a native HDV HC1 low-light sample: Shutter Speed: 50, Gain +12dB, F1.8, 51.549 KB

http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/daten/klotz.mpg

is better low-light than my Sony 3 Chip DSR 200 DVCAM......

Jeff Zimmerman January 6th, 2006 12:25 AM

Low Light with the HC1
 
I would turn on Black Stretch and also bring down the sharpness option -2 from being centered. We've discussed here http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=56761 Might help you get some idea....

R.P. Cuenco January 6th, 2006 12:34 AM

hate to break it to you, but the hc1 doesnt have black stretch.
only the a1u.

Jeff Zimmerman January 6th, 2006 12:45 AM

HC1 - my bad
 
Thanks my Bad... get A1u and HC1 little confused sometimes... maybe just checkout the sharpness level and color settings.

Tracey Winning January 20th, 2006 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse Hopkins
I mean, would there be any hope of shooting at dusk or indoors with home lighting and getting smooth results?

Hi Jesse,

I have the HC1 and now shoot indoors with wonderful results. The normal household lights are NOT good enough to get smooth results. But for $39, I got some lights from the local hardware store (Bunnings) and set them up inside. The results are absolutely excellent.

Tracey

Paul Rickford January 20th, 2006 07:56 AM

[QUOTE=Wolfgang Winne]Here is a native HDV HC1 low-light sample: Shutter Speed: 50, Gain +12dB, F1.8, 51.549 KB

How did you confirm the gain as being +12db?, am I going mad but I can't see how to know that on my A1.

Thanks
Paul

Laurence Kingston January 20th, 2006 08:28 AM

I've been replacing the incandescent lights around the house with warm color temperature high output flourescents. Not only does my video look better, but it's nice and bright and saves on our monthly electric bill.

Stu Holmes January 20th, 2006 09:23 AM

[QUOTE=Paul Rickford]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang Winne
Here is a native HDV HC1 low-light sample: Shutter Speed: 50, Gain +12dB, F1.8, 51.549 KB

How did you confirm the gain as being +12db?, am I going mad but I can't see how to know that on my A1.

Thanks
Paul

Aloha (!) Paul
Er, i think just replay footage, select 'Data code' and then 'Camera Data'.
Can't see aperture or gain while recording unfortunately with A1.

catch you on email buddy.
Stu

Wolfgang Winne January 20th, 2006 09:23 AM

@Paul Rickford

I can't see the F-stop and gain in the recording modus. If you play later the shoot, you can see the gain-level from tape on LCD.....

Paul Rickford January 20th, 2006 10:33 AM

Thanks for that guys, as we have no control over the gain setting on these cams it's a shame you can't see the gain info when you are recording, which at least would give chance to increase the light or move position to lower the gain.

Paul

Danny Fye January 20th, 2006 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfgang Winne
Here is a native HDV HC1 low-light sample: Shutter Speed: 50, Gain +12dB, F1.8, 51.549 KB

http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/daten/klotz.mpg

is better low-light than my Sony 3 Chip DSR 200 DVCAM......

The HC1 does not have a shutter speed of 50.

Danny Fye
www.dannyfye.com

Miguel Lombana January 20th, 2006 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Fye
The HC1 does not have a shutter speed of 50.

Danny Fye
www.dannyfye.com

Does if it's PAL.

Wayne Morellini January 20th, 2006 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Rickford
Thanks for that guys, as we have no control over the gain setting on these cams it's a shame you can't see the gain info when you are recording, which at least would give chance to increase the light or move position to lower the gain.

Paul

Somebody in the HC1/A1 threads tested each of the exposure setting
s to find their gain, aperture and shutter action for each. There is a list there somewhere that can be followed to hit a mark. But this information 100% should have been available to the on screen display.


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