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Old August 7th, 2007, 11:46 PM   #1
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v1u in low light

How is this camera in very low light i.e. dim churches or rooms lit by candle light?
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Old August 8th, 2007, 12:40 AM   #2
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As a wedding videographer I would have to say wait for the XDCam EX!

Either that or you'll have to carry the new Sony light as a minimum requirement.

I love my FX 7 in the daylight, but for receptions it's quite depressing when you take your 1st shot (before the sun sets through the windows) at 6 p.m., and the camera is already at +18 gain!

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Old August 8th, 2007, 06:40 AM   #3
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I strongly disagree with claims on the V1 being so poor in low light. The idea is to not allow the camera brighten up the reality for you, which it will do if you leave gain in auto while not limiting it to say 6dB in the menu (12db at most).

When the scenery being shot is dim or even dark, try to allow only as much of gain as necessary to render it equally dark in your footage - you won't be disappointed! Of course, try to compensate for it with other settings, like freeing the bandwith by compressing blacks, or making for the overal picture dullnes by increasing colour gain, setting knee high etc. Also, when it's dark, don't darken it even further by engaging cinegamma. If you don't like it dark, use some light!!!

Gain as high as 18dB should only be used at those rare occasions when you really must document something that would be too dark otherwise.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 06:46 AM   #4
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Not that low light in V1. Is HDV not DV too much gain end up VCD quality...:( If is a candle light than let net it be or get some extra lights using LED type. Im getting the SONY Led light soon
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Old August 8th, 2007, 07:03 AM   #5
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I have a pair of v1u's which I use for ceremony's/receptions etc. We have been very pleased with the footage. Obviously, if you turn out the lights in a room, well, it's dark. So the idea is to use placed light in places that will help your footage. One of the darkest buildings we've ever shot in was a university chapel, dark walls, dark seats, dark ceiling, dark carpet, windows and ceiling lights that were meant more for design than function. Even then, with the bride being in white, white flowers behind them and light colored b/m dresses, we still had plenty of light.

We are pleased we went with the V1u. Like mentioned above, there's always a new camera coming out, the goal is to get what will work for your now, because it's hard to build a buisness, in video, without cameras. :}
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Old August 14th, 2007, 01:11 PM   #6
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I also have a pair of V1Us that I use for shooting performances. I had a very challenging lighting situation this spring, but I think the results are pretty impressive. The close shots are V1U, and the wide shots are HC1-- before I bit the bullet and bought a twin V1U.

YouTube doesn't look anywhere as good as my DVD does, but it gives you a pretty good idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3DrTDWlZ5M

I did a fair amount of post correction, but I think I preserved the dramatic lighting effect. Right from the beginning, a dimly lit lamp is swinging at the left of the screen. Then a figure emerges upstage in a thin shaft of light. And the person in the bright chrome body suit... yadda yadda yadda. All in a day's work!
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Old August 14th, 2007, 03:53 PM   #7
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I shoot Weddings and a lot of concert footage in clubs. I always carry my Bescor 50watt or 100watt camera light and battery pack.

I will post some new low light footage later today

Take a look at this thread this a clip that I made when I recieved my V1u
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=83387
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Old August 14th, 2007, 09:47 PM   #8
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Thanks everybody I appreciate your help. Is anyone here using the firestone with this camera?

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Old August 15th, 2007, 05:20 AM   #9
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Thanks everybody I appreciate your help. Is anyone here using the firestone with this camera?

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I use the "firestone" for my car. It's a decent tire, but it doesn't work too well with my camera... lol.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 06:04 AM   #10
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Yeah... The 'Firestone', being a stone, is too heavy for me to move around, therefore I personally am using the Sony HVR-DR60. Not only is it lighter itself, but also allows tapeless recording with my V1E, which makes the whole rig even lighter:)
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Old August 15th, 2007, 06:42 AM   #11
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I also have a pair of V1Us that I use for shooting performances. I had a very challenging lighting situation this spring, but I think the results are pretty impressive. The close shots are V1U, and the wide shots are HC1-- before I bit the bullet and bought a twin V1U.

YouTube doesn't look anywhere as good as my DVD does, but it gives you a pretty good idea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3DrTDWlZ5M

I did a fair amount of post correction, but I think I preserved the dramatic lighting effect. Right from the beginning, a dimly lit lamp is swinging at the left of the screen. Then a figure emerges upstage in a thin shaft of light. And the person in the bright chrome body suit... yadda yadda yadda. All in a day's work!
Jerry, good job! How did you do the sound - is it live from the performance?
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Old August 15th, 2007, 07:47 PM   #12
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Is anyone here using the firestone with this camera?

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Old August 26th, 2007, 09:52 AM   #13
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Jerry, good job! How did you do the sound - is it live from the performance?
Thanks! I dubbed in the music from the CD in post. I brought up the applause from the live performance at the end. Depending on the type of performance, I think it works better if you don't use any live sound. Nothing like having a bunch of coughs and crying children during a dramatic moment.
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Old October 27th, 2007, 02:11 AM   #14
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Looking at the grab attached, can anyone say this is a poorly performing camera? Typical wedding ceremony, in-church lighting (yes I used the HVL-LBP on-camera light, but the distance in this particular shot was over 10m)!

EDIT John, here you are!
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Old October 27th, 2007, 06:49 AM   #15
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Looking at the grab attached, can anyone say this is a poorly performing camera? Typical wedding ceremony, in-church lighting (yes I used the HVL-LBP on-camera light, but the distance in this particular shot was over 10m)!
I don't think anyone is claiming that this is a poorly performing camera. It just has its shortcomings in low light. The scene that you snapshot has a decent amount of light. Show me a scene of a dimly lit dance floor at a reception. That would be a good test of low light performance.
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