Line in trouble on V1E PAL at DVinfo.net

Svein Rune Skilnand · September 25th, 2007, 01:47 PM

Hello. I am doing a lot of live-events like concerts and stageshows shooting with 3 V1s. In the past I hooked up my trusty old Panasonic DVX100 to the soundmixer via line-in to get good quality sound. And the result was superb.

Doing the same now with my V1s I get no sound at all. The camera is set to line-in, I have tried 32 and 48, HDV and DV, input 1 and input 2, tried every possible xlr-cabel around, including jack-plugs and RCA-plugs and no sound.

Hooking up my DVX100 I get sound instantly. I have also tried a fourth V1 camera to be sure but the same result occur. Switching to mic however I get sound. The camera has been tested by Sony Primesupport and they say the camera works fine though they only hook up a player and claim that the V1 may noy be compatible with the soundmixers. I have had this problem for 8 months now and tested on really expensive soundmixers at concerts such as Smokie and Slade so I know that the soundengineers are experts in their field.

I do this for a living and I am really struggling here. I have used minidisc to record sound and that works fine but it is a bit more timeconsuming syncing every concert. Especially when I am doing 5-6 shows in a row.

Any advice and help is greatly appreciated.

Chris Medico · September 25th, 2007, 02:17 PM

When you say LINE-IN are we talking about the RCA breakout cable or are you routing the audio to the XLR connectors in front of the carrying cable?

The V1 does not support audio IN on the RCA breakout cable. That is audio OUT only. The only audio IN is the XLR connectors.

I have run audio to the XLR connectors on the V1 from my Mackie Mixer and that combo worked fine.

Svein Rune Skilnand · September 26th, 2007, 03:54 AM

I am running the sound through the XLR- connections and setting the audio- input via the meny to line- in. Sorry if this was not clear.

Steve Mullen · September 26th, 2007, 07:56 PM

XLRs can be wired for balanced or unbalanced connections.

Mixers should output balanced (signal on 2 (+) and 3 (-) with 1 being ground), but may very well output unbalanced signals. My guess is that the mixer outputs are unbalanced. By chance, the mixer's unbalanced connections match your DVX100, but not the V1.

To connect an unbalanced XLR to a balanced XLR input (which I ASSUME the V1 has), be sure the mixer signal feeds pin 2 of the XLR connector, and the mixer ground feeds pins 1 & 3.

Svein Rune Skilnand · September 28th, 2007, 09:08 AM

Ok, thanks a lot for sharing that information. I will sure try that. Thank you.

Jose Noriega · September 29th, 2007, 12:23 AM

I am having trouble to monitor channel 2 while recording
Is it possible?

I am using a Lavalier wireless Mic from Sony feeding the Channel 1 Connector
On the Channel Two I have a Sennheiser Shotgun

I can monitor the MIc that goes in the channel 1 connector but not on the channel 2 in Camera Mode

In VTR mode I am able to select either channel

I will apppreciate your input

Regards
Jose Noriega
www.video.com.mx

Alnoor Dewshi · October 14th, 2007, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose Noriega

I am having trouble to monitor channel 2 while recording
Is it possible?

Switch channel 1 "REC CH SELECT" to "CH1" on the mic panel to record this input to channel 1 only. The mic plugged into channel 2 should then record to channel 2, and you should hear the result in the headphones.

This set up works for me with no probs.

Jose Noriega · October 15th, 2007, 11:23 AM

Thanks it worked as you mentioned I was using a mono headphone that didnt allow to monitor the 2nd Cnannel

September 25th, 2007, 01:47 PM	#1
Svein Rune Skilnand Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fidjeland, Norway Posts: 289	Line in trouble on V1E PAL Hello. I am doing a lot of live-events like concerts and stageshows shooting with 3 V1s. In the past I hooked up my trusty old Panasonic DVX100 to the soundmixer via line-in to get good quality sound. And the result was superb. Doing the same now with my V1s I get no sound at all. The camera is set to line-in, I have tried 32 and 48, HDV and DV, input 1 and input 2, tried every possible xlr-cabel around, including jack-plugs and RCA-plugs and no sound. Hooking up my DVX100 I get sound instantly. I have also tried a fourth V1 camera to be sure but the same result occur. Switching to mic however I get sound. The camera has been tested by Sony Primesupport and they say the camera works fine though they only hook up a player and claim that the V1 may noy be compatible with the soundmixers. I have had this problem for 8 months now and tested on really expensive soundmixers at concerts such as Smokie and Slade so I know that the soundengineers are experts in their field. I do this for a living and I am really struggling here. I have used minidisc to record sound and that works fine but it is a bit more timeconsuming syncing every concert. Especially when I am doing 5-6 shows in a row. Any advice and help is greatly appreciated.

September 25th, 2007, 02:17 PM	#2
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	When you say LINE-IN are we talking about the RCA breakout cable or are you routing the audio to the XLR connectors in front of the carrying cable? The V1 does not support audio IN on the RCA breakout cable. That is audio OUT only. The only audio IN is the XLR connectors. I have run audio to the XLR connectors on the V1 from my Mackie Mixer and that combo worked fine. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

September 26th, 2007, 07:56 PM	#4
Steve Mullen HDV Cinema Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,007	XLRs can be wired for balanced or unbalanced connections. Mixers should output balanced (signal on 2 (+) and 3 (-) with 1 being ground), but may very well output unbalanced signals. My guess is that the mixer outputs are unbalanced. By chance, the mixer's unbalanced connections match your DVX100, but not the V1. To connect an unbalanced XLR to a balanced XLR input (which I ASSUME the V1 has), be sure the mixer signal feeds pin 2 of the XLR connector, and the mixer ground feeds pins 1 & 3. __________________ Switcher's Quick Guide to the Avid Media Composer >>> http://home.mindspring.com/~d-v-c

September 29th, 2007, 12:23 AM	#6
Jose Noriega New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 16	Audio Monitor on HVR V1 I am having trouble to monitor channel 2 while recording Is it possible? I am using a Lavalier wireless Mic from Sony feeding the Channel 1 Connector On the Channel Two I have a Sennheiser Shotgun I can monitor the MIc that goes in the channel 1 connector but not on the channel 2 in Camera Mode In VTR mode I am able to select either channel I will apppreciate your input Regards Jose Noriega www.video.com.mx __________________ Jose Noriega www.video.com.mx

October 15th, 2007, 11:23 AM	#8
Jose Noriega New Boot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 16	Line in trouble on V1E PAL Thanks it worked as you mentioned I was using a mono headphone that didnt allow to monitor the 2nd Cnannel __________________ Jose Noriega www.video.com.mx

September 26th, 2007, 03:54 AM	#3
Svein Rune Skilnand Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fidjeland, Norway Posts: 289	I am running the sound through the XLR- connections and setting the audio- input via the meny to line- in. Sorry if this was not clear.

September 28th, 2007, 09:08 AM	#5
Svein Rune Skilnand Major Player Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fidjeland, Norway Posts: 289	Ok, thanks a lot for sharing that information. I will sure try that. Thank you.

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