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Mauro Moreira May 14th, 2008 06:38 PM

Pulldown
 
I've shot in 24p and captured using Apple ProRes 422 1080p24 in Final Cut. Athough the footage came in 30 fps with pulldown.
If I remove the pulldown will i achieve more quality?

Steve Mullen May 14th, 2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauro Moreira (Post 877396)
I've shot in 24p and captured using Apple ProRes 422 1080p24 in Final Cut. Athough the footage came in 30 fps with pulldown.
If I remove the pulldown will i achieve more quality?

Depends upon what you mean by "quality."

Leaving pulldown in the video means:

1) you have judder frames

2) when you cut -- you'll wind up with broken cadences

3) when you do FX you will wind up with mixed cadence video

All these can be said to lower quality. If you shot 24p you should remove pulldown and edit at 24p.

This is not true of 25p or 30p.

PS: removing pulldown doesn't make HDV any "better."

Justin Zimmerman May 15th, 2008 05:53 PM

from Apple

Sony HVR-V1 HDV Tape-Based Camcorder Support

Final Cut Pro 6.0.2 is compatible with the Sony HVR-V1 HDV camcorder, which is capable of recording 1080p24, 1080p25, and 1080p30 footage. You can capture natively or capture to either the Apple Intermediate Codec or the Apple ProRes 422 codec. You can also output back to the Sony HVR-V1 camcorder using the Print to Video command.

To natively capture 1080p25 or 1080p30 footage, you should use the HDV 1080i50 and HDV 1080i60 Easy Setups, respectively. Your footage will retain its progressive scanning even though it will be stored in an interlaced format. You can capture 1080p24 footage using the 1080i60 Easy Setup, but your captured footage will retain 3:2 pull-down in this case.

For transcoded capture of 1080p24 footage, 3:2 pull-down is removed during transcoding, resulting in footage stored in the 1080p24 Apple Intermediate Codec format or the 1080p24 Apple ProRes 422 codec format. You can also capture 1080p25 and 1080p30 footage to either format, although Easy Setups are not included for these formats. In these cases, your captured footage is stored in the 1080p25 or 1080p30 Apple Intermediate Codec or Apple ProRes 422 codec format.

Here are the recommended workflows for capturing from and outputting to the Sony HVR-V1 camcorder with Final Cut Pro 6.0.2:

* 24p/60i on tape: Capture to the 24p Apple Intermediate Codec or Apple ProRes 422 codec, then output to the HVR-V1 camcorder in 24p/60i mode.
* 25p/50i on tape: Capture to the 25p Apple Intermediate Codec or Apple ProRes 422 codec, then output to the HVR-V1 camcorder in 25p/50i mode.
* 30p/60i on tape: Capture to the 30p Apple Intermediate Codec or Apple ProRes 422 codec, then output to the HVR-V1 camcorder in 30p/60i mode.

Mauro Moreira May 18th, 2008 07:45 PM

Sample
 
Here is a video sample of my footage.
http://www.vimeo.com/outrolado

Mauro Moreira May 19th, 2008 06:27 PM

Teaser
 
Any comments? Sugestions?

Marcus Marchesseault May 23rd, 2008 05:19 AM

My only suggestion has nothing related to the framerate. It seems to me that your shots were mostly composed with 16:9 in mind for the final format. Black bars have been placed on the top and bottom, possibly to simulate a 2.35:1 format. The bars are cutting across talent's faces too often for my taste. Also, some of your picture-in-picture shots seem to have the wrong aspect ratio so they look squished.

Mauro Moreira June 3rd, 2008 10:24 AM

Footage
 
Thanks,
In a week the music clip will be ready.


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