New version of the FX1 at DVinfo.net

Mark Utley · September 7th, 2006, 01:49 AM

Just letting you guys know that Sony will be releasing an HDR-FX7 (for discussion and specs, go here).

Is anyone thinking of selling their FX1s or Z1s? Their value is definitely going to drop a bit in the next little while so if you want to upgrade, now's probably the time to sell. I for one am happy with my Z1 so I'll be keeping it for awhile.

I think it would probably be best not to get into Z7 speculation, as per board rules.

John Rofrano · September 7th, 2006, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Utley

Is anyone thinking of selling their FX1s or Z1s?

Nope. From your link, the FX7 doesn’t seem to have XLR’s so I won’t be selling my Z1 any time soon. (I may pick up an FX7 as a second cam though) ;-)

~jr

John M. McCloskey · September 7th, 2006, 07:41 AM

What do you think the purpose in making it smaller is?? before long videographers are going to have to get hand reductions to run these little cameras. Also tripods are going to have to be made out of lead to keep these feather cameras steady. Just a question

John Rofrano · September 7th, 2006, 07:45 AM

It looks to me like it’s the same size as the VX2100/PD170 so it’s actually not smaller. It’s just that the FX1/Z1 was bigger. ;-)

~jr

Brent Ethington · September 7th, 2006, 07:49 AM

It's disappointing that they're still using a capture resolution of 960x1080 (like the fx1) and now going 1440x1080 native (as the new Canon XH models will). Definitely not an "upgrade" of the FX1 to replace the model. Hopefully Sony has more announcements to come soon...

John M. McCloskey · September 7th, 2006, 07:59 AM

I have seen where it is 25% smaller than the FX1 and 40% lighter.

Heath McKnight · September 7th, 2006, 08:42 AM

Guys,

Remember, it's consumer, and, a smaller camera is always nicer. 3 CMOS is very cool.

heath

John M. McCloskey · September 7th, 2006, 10:33 AM

No question it is consumer type camera, no XLR inputs, 8 lux, great camera to handhold the trip to the ZOO. Sony is definitly focused on the consumer and tapeless aquisition side of things right now. Sony remember you make a big DVcam type HDV tape now, give us a HDV camera that accepts these tapes. Amazing the consumer camera is 20 by zoom and the Z1 prosumer camera cant even get there with a Century teleconverter. Bet Canon is fealing pretty good today. Sony we believe in you just dont make the Z1 a toy in the future.

Heath McKnight · September 7th, 2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John M. McCloskey

No question it is consumer type camera, no XLR inputs, 8 lux, great camera to handhold the trip to the ZOO. Sony is definitly focused on the consumer and tapeless aquisition side of things right now. Sony remember you make a big DVcam type HDV tape now, give us a HDV camera that accepts these tapes. Amazing the consumer camera is 20 by zoom and the Z1 prosumer camera cant even get there with a Century teleconverter. Bet Canon is fealing pretty good today. Sony we believe in you just dont make the Z1 a toy in the future.

Sony has two divisions, consumer and professional. Sony consumer has the FX1/7, HC3 and pro has Z1, PD170, F900, etc.

heath

John M. McCloskey · September 7th, 2006, 11:41 AM

Sony also has there XDCam which aquires to Blue Ray Disk. What i have seen over the past few months from Sony is a huge push in there marketing campaign for small consumer cameras and anything and everything Blue Ray. I know in the past couple of days they have made it back to the Prosumer/Professional tape driven products and I'm glad to see that. I thought for a while they were going to put all there eggs in one basket, the Blue Ray basket. I am real glad to see they have come out with a new Z1, cant wait to see the tests between the new Z1 and Canons new XH, let the games begin.

Heath McKnight · September 7th, 2006, 11:54 AM

I may be wrong, but I think the Z1 is staying around and the V1 is a whole new camera.

heath

Boyd Ostroff · September 7th, 2006, 12:32 PM

Yes, if you look at the sonybiz links in the V1 thread they say that the Z1 is their "flagship" model and this is just a new addition to the line.

Quote:

Sony today announced the addition of its latest professional HDV camcorder, the HVR-V1E, to its wide range of professional HDV products, which includes Sony's first and flagship HDV professional camcorder, the HVR-Z1E and the compact and lightweight HVR-A1E.

Darrin Altman · September 7th, 2006, 10:40 PM

I dont think the FX7 is native 16:9 so I dont think any prosumers will be trading their FX1 for it.

Heath McKnight · September 7th, 2006, 10:44 PM

It is indeed--HDV is widescreen by default.

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

heath

Darrin Altman · September 7th, 2006, 10:46 PM

I am going to search now for the article I read stating it isnt actually 16:9. Maybe I am mistaken. I will f/u.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

It is indeed--HDV is widescreen by default.

http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools

heath

September 7th, 2006, 01:49 AM	#1
Mark Utley Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 479	New version of the FX1 Just letting you guys know that Sony will be releasing an HDR-FX7 (for discussion and specs, go here). Is anyone thinking of selling their FX1s or Z1s? Their value is definitely going to drop a bit in the next little while so if you want to upgrade, now's probably the time to sell. I for one am happy with my Z1 so I'll be keeping it for awhile. I think it would probably be best not to get into Z7 speculation, as per board rules. __________________ Mark Utley

September 7th, 2006, 07:45 AM	#4
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	It looks to me like it’s the same size as the VX2100/PD170 so it’s actually not smaller. It’s just that the FX1/Z1 was bigger. ;-) ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

September 7th, 2006, 08:42 AM	#7
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Guys, Remember, it's consumer, and, a smaller camera is always nicer. 3 CMOS is very cool. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 7th, 2006, 11:54 AM	#11
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I may be wrong, but I think the Z1 is staying around and the V1 is a whole new camera. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 7th, 2006, 10:44 PM	#14
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	It is indeed--HDV is widescreen by default. http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

September 7th, 2006, 07:41 AM	#3
John M. McCloskey Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Point, MS Posts: 313	What do you think the purpose in making it smaller is?? before long videographers are going to have to get hand reductions to run these little cameras. Also tripods are going to have to be made out of lead to keep these feather cameras steady. Just a question

September 7th, 2006, 07:49 AM	#5
Brent Ethington Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: WA Posts: 180	It's disappointing that they're still using a capture resolution of 960x1080 (like the fx1) and now going 1440x1080 native (as the new Canon XH models will). Definitely not an "upgrade" of the FX1 to replace the model. Hopefully Sony has more announcements to come soon...

September 7th, 2006, 07:59 AM	#6
John M. McCloskey Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Point, MS Posts: 313	I have seen where it is 25% smaller than the FX1 and 40% lighter.

September 7th, 2006, 10:33 AM	#8
John M. McCloskey Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Point, MS Posts: 313	No question it is consumer type camera, no XLR inputs, 8 lux, great camera to handhold the trip to the ZOO. Sony is definitly focused on the consumer and tapeless aquisition side of things right now. Sony remember you make a big DVcam type HDV tape now, give us a HDV camera that accepts these tapes. Amazing the consumer camera is 20 by zoom and the Z1 prosumer camera cant even get there with a Century teleconverter. Bet Canon is fealing pretty good today. Sony we believe in you just dont make the Z1 a toy in the future.

September 7th, 2006, 11:41 AM	#10
John M. McCloskey Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Point, MS Posts: 313	Sony also has there XDCam which aquires to Blue Ray Disk. What i have seen over the past few months from Sony is a huge push in there marketing campaign for small consumer cameras and anything and everything Blue Ray. I know in the past couple of days they have made it back to the Prosumer/Professional tape driven products and I'm glad to see that. I thought for a while they were going to put all there eggs in one basket, the Blue Ray basket. I am real glad to see they have come out with a new Z1, cant wait to see the tests between the new Z1 and Canons new XH, let the games begin.

September 7th, 2006, 10:40 PM	#13
Darrin Altman Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 78	I dont think the FX7 is native 16:9 so I dont think any prosumers will be trading their FX1 for it.