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Heath McKnight September 7th, 2006 11:18 AM

IBC: Sony announces HVR-V1e
 
http://www.sonybiz.net/cgi-bin/bvisa...k.0&OID=193623

and

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...=Breaking+News

Details:

http://www.sonybiz.net/cgi-bin/bvisa...Y=TEMP-HVR-V1E

heath

Stu Holmes September 7th, 2006 11:36 AM

Can shoot 25p !!!!!!!!!

4% slowdown to get 24p !!!

wow shock !!

Gary McClurg September 7th, 2006 11:37 AM

Its great... a new camera... that's better for us... better and better cameras keep coming... soon every kid in America can make a movie...

Now that doesn't mean it'll be a good movie... :)

Evan C. King September 7th, 2006 11:44 AM

Stu that's the "e" model you're talking about. So the american "u" model probably shoots 24p!

John M. McCloskey September 7th, 2006 11:45 AM

Its set, the HVR-V1E VS. Canon XH. Hope Canon ate there wheaties. Good job Sony

Brent Ethington September 7th, 2006 11:46 AM

so, is this just a "pro" version of the FX-7 (with different electronics to do the 50i/25p, XLR, etc.) but with same sensors?

Heath McKnight September 7th, 2006 11:54 AM

3 CMOS. Dunno about a US version, but I'm sure there will be some sort of news about a potential one.

heath

Beth Dill September 7th, 2006 11:59 AM

SWEET! I'm dying to know what the lux rating is. I didn't see it...

Stu Holmes September 7th, 2006 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beth Dill
SWEET! I'm dying to know what the lux rating is. I didn't see it...

Will be 4lux, same as FX7.
BY the way, in this file:
http://www.sonybiz.net/images/produc...-V1E(brch).pdf

it says on the prog scan thing :
"The 25p signal is recorded as a 50i signal by dividing each frame into two fields. This allows the 25p progressive footage captured by the camcorder to be played back or fed to an editing suite using existing Sony equipment".

So.... are we talking about an in-camera de-interlacer here?? Hmm. Not sure quite what Sony have done. sounds *maybe* like a bit of a fudge to me, but i think we need more info on that.

Tim Le September 7th, 2006 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu Holmes
So.... are we talking about an in-camera de-interlacer here?? Hmm. Not sure quite what Sony have done. sounds *maybe* like a bit of a fudge to me, but i think we need more info on that.

Negative, the chips are apparently true progressive scan CMOS. It just happens to be recorded on a 50i stream for compatibility. According to that Sony product page:

"Compatible with existing HDV equipment & software
Because the HVR-V1E's 25p scan signal is recorded as a 50i signal (by dividing each frame into two fields) it can be played back or fed to an editing suite using the thousands of Sony professional HDV equipment already in use throughout the world. Existing HDV nonlinear software can edit this 25p scan content and output the final master as:

1. A sequence of still images at 25 fps, for film out
2. A 25fps YUV (uncompressed) HD file, for output to Cinealta products
3. A 25fps SD MPEG2 file, for the highest quality DVD mastering possible
4. A 50i HDV file, for creating an HDV edit master
5. A 50i YUV (uncompressed) HD or SD file, for outputting to Digital Betacam or HDCAM for broadcast"

I think the DVX and XL2 do the same thing, i.e. record a 24P signal onto a 60i stream. But it is true progressive scan.

Stu Holmes September 7th, 2006 12:22 PM

Yep thanks Tim. After i'd re-read the sony blurb I too came to a similar conclusion that it IS capturing in true-prog-scan but has to chop each frame up and store as interlaced for backwards compatability reasons.

- thanks

Evan Donn September 7th, 2006 12:23 PM

30p more likely?
 
Wouldn't 30p be more likely for the NTSC version? Assuming they're going to to use the same progressive-frame-divided-in-two type thing, I would expect this to be something more like the original Canon Elura, which had a 30p mode recorded within an interlaced signal.

Stu Holmes September 7th, 2006 12:27 PM

Switchable PAL / NTSC ! same as Z1 - excellent stuff.

Also has Hypergain (i guess it will be up to +36dB), and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Absolutely the HDV equivalent version of the PD170 and i'd think will be standard issue by media & broadcast companies in the future.

Boyd Ostroff September 7th, 2006 12:27 PM

Very cool! But since they say the Z1 will still be their "flagship" product, I wonder what features this new camera is missing?

Giroud Francois September 7th, 2006 12:31 PM

As usually , sony is playing the same old game.
take the prosumer cam , paint it in black, add xlr input et voila !
no mention of HD-SDI output, same resolution as the good old FX1 or FX7.
We were waiting a bit better from Sony...
Now you can tell "You dreamed it, Canon has done it"


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