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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:18 PM   #1
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IBC: Sony announces HVR-V1e

http://www.sonybiz.net/cgi-bin/bvisa...k.0&OID=193623

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http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...=Breaking+News

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http://www.sonybiz.net/cgi-bin/bvisa...Y=TEMP-HVR-V1E

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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:36 PM   #2
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Can shoot 25p !!!!!!!!!

4% slowdown to get 24p !!!

wow shock !!
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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:37 PM   #3
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Its great... a new camera... that's better for us... better and better cameras keep coming... soon every kid in America can make a movie...

Now that doesn't mean it'll be a good movie... :)
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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:44 PM   #4
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Stu that's the "e" model you're talking about. So the american "u" model probably shoots 24p!
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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:45 PM   #5
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Its set, the HVR-V1E VS. Canon XH. Hope Canon ate there wheaties. Good job Sony
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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:46 PM   #6
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so, is this just a "pro" version of the FX-7 (with different electronics to do the 50i/25p, XLR, etc.) but with same sensors?
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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:54 PM   #7
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3 CMOS. Dunno about a US version, but I'm sure there will be some sort of news about a potential one.

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Old September 7th, 2006, 12:59 PM   #8
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SWEET! I'm dying to know what the lux rating is. I didn't see it...
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Old September 7th, 2006, 01:10 PM   #9
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SWEET! I'm dying to know what the lux rating is. I didn't see it...
Will be 4lux, same as FX7.
BY the way, in this file:
http://www.sonybiz.net/images/produc...-V1E(brch).pdf

it says on the prog scan thing :
"The 25p signal is recorded as a 50i signal by dividing each frame into two fields. This allows the 25p progressive footage captured by the camcorder to be played back or fed to an editing suite using existing Sony equipment".

So.... are we talking about an in-camera de-interlacer here?? Hmm. Not sure quite what Sony have done. sounds *maybe* like a bit of a fudge to me, but i think we need more info on that.
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Old September 7th, 2006, 01:16 PM   #10
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So.... are we talking about an in-camera de-interlacer here?? Hmm. Not sure quite what Sony have done. sounds *maybe* like a bit of a fudge to me, but i think we need more info on that.
Negative, the chips are apparently true progressive scan CMOS. It just happens to be recorded on a 50i stream for compatibility. According to that Sony product page:

"Compatible with existing HDV equipment & software
Because the HVR-V1E's 25p scan signal is recorded as a 50i signal (by dividing each frame into two fields) it can be played back or fed to an editing suite using the thousands of Sony professional HDV equipment already in use throughout the world. Existing HDV nonlinear software can edit this 25p scan content and output the final master as:

1. A sequence of still images at 25 fps, for film out
2. A 25fps YUV (uncompressed) HD file, for output to Cinealta products
3. A 25fps SD MPEG2 file, for the highest quality DVD mastering possible
4. A 50i HDV file, for creating an HDV edit master
5. A 50i YUV (uncompressed) HD or SD file, for outputting to Digital Betacam or HDCAM for broadcast"

I think the DVX and XL2 do the same thing, i.e. record a 24P signal onto a 60i stream. But it is true progressive scan.

Last edited by Tim Le; September 7th, 2006 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Actual sensor resolution not known at this time
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Old September 7th, 2006, 01:22 PM   #11
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Yep thanks Tim. After i'd re-read the sony blurb I too came to a similar conclusion that it IS capturing in true-prog-scan but has to chop each frame up and store as interlaced for backwards compatability reasons.

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30p more likely?

Wouldn't 30p be more likely for the NTSC version? Assuming they're going to to use the same progressive-frame-divided-in-two type thing, I would expect this to be something more like the original Canon Elura, which had a 30p mode recorded within an interlaced signal.
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Old September 7th, 2006, 01:27 PM   #13
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Switchable PAL / NTSC ! same as Z1 - excellent stuff.

Also has Hypergain (i guess it will be up to +36dB), and a whole bunch of other stuff.

Absolutely the HDV equivalent version of the PD170 and i'd think will be standard issue by media & broadcast companies in the future.
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Very cool! But since they say the Z1 will still be their "flagship" product, I wonder what features this new camera is missing?
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Old September 7th, 2006, 01:31 PM   #15
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As usually , sony is playing the same old game.
take the prosumer cam , paint it in black, add xlr input et voila !
no mention of HD-SDI output, same resolution as the good old FX1 or FX7.
We were waiting a bit better from Sony...
Now you can tell "You dreamed it, Canon has done it"
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