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Old December 29th, 2006, 07:52 PM   #1
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Hvr-v1u 24p Clips

Shot a wedding on a yacht Thurs. weather was overcast and cloudy
CAMERA SETTINGS 24p 48 shutter ND FILTER 2 PROFILE 1

RAW m2t FILES

http://www.dvdaction.net/index_004.htm

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Old December 29th, 2006, 10:29 PM   #2
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Nice Looking Footage. Although, it does look a interlaced with the little jaggies..
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Interlaced with jaggies on what screen with what NLE?
If your NLE doesn't support pulldown removal of HDV, then of course, you'll see interlacing artifacts, because the footage *is* interlaced.
In other words, if you don't have Vegas, or Edius, or don't have CineForm for PP, you aren't seeing 24p.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 10:42 PM   #4
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i used the vlc player to view these clips. Never had a problem before with other 24p footage. Anyways, I tuned the deinterlacer on in VLC Player and it looked much better.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 10:50 PM   #5
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I viewed with Windows Media Player 11 and didn't see any jaggies. (FWIW I do have Cineform for PP on my machine.)

BTW, thanks for posting 24p footage!
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i used the vlc player to view these clips. Never had a problem before with other 24p footage. Anyways, I tuned the deinterlacer on in VLC Player and it looked much better.
VLC doesn't support pulldown removal in a GOP stream.
This is one factor that many folks are missing, and the same thing happened when the DVX first came out as well. Many folks miss that their NLE or viewing system must be able to remove the pulldown and correctly see the information. Otherwise, you're not seeing it for what it is, but rather for what it isn't.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 10:58 PM   #7
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I rendered the clips to an m2v file in VEGAS 7C. THE raw m2t files are still on the link. I also rendered th clips with CineForm the AVI files are to big to post. I will post more clips on Sunday.
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Thanks for posting.
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Old December 30th, 2006, 07:41 AM   #9
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V1 vs Z1

Hey Brian...how does the V1 compare to the Z1?
In daylight and also in low-light.
Please post some side by side clips if possible.

THANKS!!!
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Old December 30th, 2006, 08:57 AM   #10
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Paul the weather has been bad here in Houston overcast cloudy rainy soon as it clears up I will shot some footage and post. I must say the V1 performs very well in low light with the correct settings. I shot a concert in a club very low light I was surprised at how well the footage can out. I donít think the footage would have been any better on my Z1 or FX1. I am thinking about selling my FX1 And getting another V1u , because I am shooting a short film in March.
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Old December 30th, 2006, 09:02 AM   #11
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Brian, Thanks for posting the footage... looks fine from here...

I'm wondering though with all of the issues with these software packages not
correctly handleing the footage...

I'm an Adobe Premiere user, but its getting more apparent that I may need to
get Vegas to ensure that any footage I shoot from a V1 be handled correctly...


Just wish Sony would give the software with the purchase of a V1U.. :-)

Are you listening Sony....
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Old December 30th, 2006, 09:14 AM   #12
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Ray I use CineForm Connect HD to AVI format and then I edit in Sony Vegas the files are easier to work with than the M2T files.
Take a look at CineForm Aspect HD for Adobe Premiere Pro

http://www.cineform.com/
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Old December 30th, 2006, 09:24 AM   #13
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Thanks for the reply Brian, I know I'm getting off topic here but maybe others can benefit from this...

So If I read your post correctly you use Vegas and Cineform Connect and Cineform Aspect in your workflow for the V1?

What do you get from using the add-on's versus handeling it all in native Vegas??
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Old December 30th, 2006, 10:35 AM   #14
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The main thing that I that I like about CineForm is the codec you can do multiple generations with almost no loss in video quality. I use the CineForm codec to render still slide shows with various photo software. Then I input the .avi clips in VEGAS Time line I See no loss in quality with the second generation and to me the files are easy to manipulate than the raw m2t files per editing and real time viewing on my projects.



http://www.cineform.com/technology/C...iate.htm#Codec
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Old December 30th, 2006, 02:02 PM   #15
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Shot a wedding on a yatch Thurs. weather was overcast and cloudy
CAMERA SETTINGS 24p 48 shutter ND FILTER 2 PROFILE 1

RAW m2t FILES

http://www.dvdaction.net/index_004.htm
Hi Brian,

Thanks for taking the time to post the clips!

Just one question. Are you sure those clips were shot at 24P? I've tried Vegas 7.0C and Edius 4.0 and neither indicates they are 24P. I could be doing something wrong though.

Thanks,
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