HDR-HC9 (or similar) as a deck? at DVinfo.net

Douglas Engle · February 27th, 2009, 02:58 PM

Hi Folks,
I have a Z1 (HVR-Z1U) which apparently has a fried firewire (iLink) connection. I can shoot with it, but cannot capture with it.

I was looking into buying a deck simply for capturing, then I read some posts where people recommend getting a smaller camcorder to use for capturing and as a backup camera. Has anyone done this? Got any tips?

Is there a camcorder (or even a deck) which is switchable from PAL to NTSC like the Z1?

Thanks,
Douglas

Adam Gold · February 27th, 2009, 03:42 PM

Sure, I used a couple of HC3s to capture my FX1 footage for a long time before I moved up to my M15 deck. No problems at all except I found they were getting really hot during long batch capture sessions, what with all the shuttling back and forth. In many ways they were better than the actual M15 deck, as they had some features the deck lacks.

The three Sony decks (M15, M25 and M35) are all NTSC/PAL switchable, according to the manuals. I don't know of any other cams besides the Z1, and certainly not cheap little ones. But perhaps someone knows of one.

Wacharapong Chiowanich · March 1st, 2009, 08:38 PM

The Z1 is the only "HDV Camcorder Deck" that can do both 50i and 60i. The alternative is to buy 2 cheap consumer HDV cameras. One in 50i, the other 60i. These are cheaper than a single z1 or any of the dual system decks you mentioned.

Wacharapong

Terence Murphy · March 1st, 2009, 09:47 PM

I had vague recollections that many Sony cameras can playback both NTSC and PAL (but not record both -- that's only offered on the Z1). I found a few threads talking about this, and it sounds like an HC9 can do it:

Can FX1 (NTSC) play PAL DV or HDV 50i? or vice versa? - The Digital Video Information Network
NTSC playback on a Sony PAL camera. True or False? - The Digital Video Information Network

You could try taking two PAL and NTSC tapes to the store and seeing if they play.

-Terence

Douglas Engle · March 2nd, 2009, 08:32 AM

Tha sounds interesting - I would only be using the camera/deck to capture both PAL and NTSC, so that just might work!

Douglas Engle · March 4th, 2009, 10:23 AM

Hi all,
I recently found the Sony GV-HD700 deck at several places online. Sounds like something I might be interested in. But is it PAL/NTSC switchable?

Does anyone use one (or have one)? If it does not RECORD in both will it at least PLAY BACK both?

here's a photo:
Sony Drive GV-HD700,HDV1080i HD Video Walkman : Specs, reviews and prices.

Thanks

Adam Gold · March 4th, 2009, 11:51 AM

No. The 700 is NTSC and the 700E is PAL. Page 75 of the manual.

For switchable, you need the M15/M25/M35.

Marcus Martell · March 6th, 2009, 05:40 AM

Is it me or the heads of this deck won't last forever as other deck like HVRm25 -30-15?
Maybe is better 2 use the Sony GV-HD700 as a reader for extreme situations right?

Adam Gold · March 6th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Not necessarily. The tape transport systems are generally more robust in actual decks, but the heads are usually the same in decks or cams. At least that's what I'm told.

Marcus Martell · March 9th, 2009, 03:56 PM

Whats up ADAM?
So do you think that The tape transport system of the 700 and of the hvr-m15 are about the same hard construction?

Adam Gold · March 9th, 2009, 08:51 PM

I can't be sure, but I suspect so.

February 27th, 2009, 02:58 PM	#1
Douglas Engle New Boot Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Posts: 16	HDR-HC9 (or similar) as a deck? Hi Folks, I have a Z1 (HVR-Z1U) which apparently has a fried firewire (iLink) connection. I can shoot with it, but cannot capture with it. I was looking into buying a deck simply for capturing, then I read some posts where people recommend getting a smaller camcorder to use for capturing and as a backup camera. Has anyone done this? Got any tips? Is there a camcorder (or even a deck) which is switchable from PAL to NTSC like the Z1? Thanks, Douglas

March 4th, 2009, 10:23 AM	#6
Douglas Engle New Boot Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Posts: 16	Gv-hd700? Hi all, I recently found the Sony GV-HD700 deck at several places online. Sounds like something I might be interested in. But is it PAL/NTSC switchable? Does anyone use one (or have one)? If it does not RECORD in both will it at least PLAY BACK both? here's a photo: Sony Drive GV-HD700,HDV1080i HD Video Walkman : Specs, reviews and prices. Thanks

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February 27th, 2009, 03:42 PM	#2
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Sure, I used a couple of HC3s to capture my FX1 footage for a long time before I moved up to my M15 deck. No problems at all except I found they were getting really hot during long batch capture sessions, what with all the shuttling back and forth. In many ways they were better than the actual M15 deck, as they had some features the deck lacks. The three Sony decks (M15, M25 and M35) are all NTSC/PAL switchable, according to the manuals. I don't know of any other cams besides the Z1, and certainly not cheap little ones. But perhaps someone knows of one.

March 1st, 2009, 08:38 PM	#3
Wacharapong Chiowanich Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 400	The Z1 is the only "HDV Camcorder Deck" that can do both 50i and 60i. The alternative is to buy 2 cheap consumer HDV cameras. One in 50i, the other 60i. These are cheaper than a single z1 or any of the dual system decks you mentioned. Wacharapong

March 1st, 2009, 09:47 PM	#4
Terence Murphy Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 161	I had vague recollections that many Sony cameras can playback both NTSC and PAL (but not record both -- that's only offered on the Z1). I found a few threads talking about this, and it sounds like an HC9 can do it: Can FX1 (NTSC) play PAL DV or HDV 50i? or vice versa? - The Digital Video Information Network NTSC playback on a Sony PAL camera. True or False? - The Digital Video Information Network You could try taking two PAL and NTSC tapes to the store and seeing if they play. -Terence

March 2nd, 2009, 08:32 AM	#5
Douglas Engle New Boot Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Posts: 16	Tha sounds interesting - I would only be using the camera/deck to capture both PAL and NTSC, so that just might work!

March 4th, 2009, 11:51 AM	#7
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	No. The 700 is NTSC and the 700E is PAL. Page 75 of the manual. For switchable, you need the M15/M25/M35.

March 6th, 2009, 05:40 AM	#8
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Is it me or the heads of this deck won't last forever as other deck like HVRm25 -30-15? Maybe is better 2 use the Sony GV-HD700 as a reader for extreme situations right?

March 6th, 2009, 01:14 PM	#9
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Not necessarily. The tape transport systems are generally more robust in actual decks, but the heads are usually the same in decks or cams. At least that's what I'm told.

March 9th, 2009, 03:56 PM	#10
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Whats up ADAM? So do you think that The tape transport system of the 700 and of the hvr-m15 are about the same hard construction?

March 9th, 2009, 08:51 PM	#11
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	I can't be sure, but I suspect so.