Sony HDR-FX1 with P+S mini35 Image Converter

Anhar Miah · January 27th, 2005, 08:26 PM

http://www.hmanvisions.com/videos/fettesbrot.mov

making link clickable to save target as...

John Gaspain · January 27th, 2005, 10:58 PM

:) I like.

Jack McCann · January 28th, 2005, 01:43 AM

Hi Christopher,

What did you do to get the vignette look in most of the shots? Was that in-camera or done in post?

Thanks, great looking footage by the way.

J

Harris Ueng · January 28th, 2005, 01:56 AM

Beautiful work! Catchy, toe-tappin' tune to boot. Nice rhythmic editing that goes well with the music. Esp. like the shots of the grinning bus driver. Definitely ups the humor of the piece.

Seriously, beautiful footage with a cam that's supposed to be for "prosumers". :-) Truly shows that it's the talent behind the camera with the right tools in hand and not just the camera itself.

Thanks for sharing!

Carlos E. Martinez · January 28th, 2005, 05:48 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Anhar Miah : http://www.hmanvisions.com/videos/fettesbrot.mov

making link clickable to save target as... -->>>

Can I get a better quality version? Where?

From what I see I can mostly judge framing and editing, but the HDV quality seems lost in the very low resolution version.

I have tried with Media Player and Quicktime and it looks the same, and it's set for high resolution.

Carlos

Jeff Patnaude · January 28th, 2005, 08:27 AM

Higher rez would be great, but I want to know where I can get the CD?

Danka!

Jeff Patnaude

Chris Hurd · January 28th, 2005, 09:00 AM

As for myself, I'd like to see some production stills showing the FX1 / Mini35 setup on location.

Shannon Rawls · January 28th, 2005, 04:36 PM

I am now questioning if this is even the FX1.

On 3 different boards people are asking all kindsa questions...mainly the same ones.

Not one question has been answered.

Just posted the video, and left....

I'm not as excited as I was anynmore. As of now, for all I know, this was shot on 35mm or HDCAM.

- Shannon W. Rawls

John Gaspain · January 28th, 2005, 05:56 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Shannon Rawls : I am now questioning if this is even the FX1.

- Shannon W. Rawls -->>>

I was wondering that myself, im trying to refrain from speculation.

What other boards was this posted on?

Ivan Hurtado · January 28th, 2005, 06:39 PM

Yes, i was absolutely amazed at the beggining with this piece of art, but as nobody answered, im getting to the point of doubting its veracity.

If this footage is real, after post and everything, it means prosumers can get to the point of enjoy explaining what people is waching is in fact digital, and smile with their open mouths.

But i think this is another thing (I really hope Christopher corrects me). How many of us were waching it over and over tip-tapping as the song played? and how many of us asked who were the players? New old kind of publicity method maybe, kind of mouth to mouth...

But as im interested in getting the Z1 i will still be hoping its real thing, at least in my heart.

Anyway, it is a very well done video with nice music.

Andreas Fernbrant · January 28th, 2005, 07:09 PM

I think that one point is beeing overseen,
As someone else pointed out here before, this peice
was filmed by a experienced DP. Most probably he could
have gotten almost the same results from a XL2 or DVX100.
The "resolution" factor is not the issue here. Colorcontrol,
correct exposure and the right frameing are a much bigger
issue. Most likely the peice was colorcorrected by a pro
too. Also remember that he has equipment for over twice
the price of the camera infront of his lens makeing this possible.

I don't have any doubts about getting results like this with
the FX1.

/Andreas

Jed Williamson · January 28th, 2005, 08:04 PM

If you go to the main page of the website it says he is in buenos aires from 1.28 to 2.17

Eric Gorski · January 29th, 2005, 03:11 AM

its legit.. he's using a mini35 image converter and probably using some lenses that cost 3 times as much as the camera.

Ivan Hurtado · January 29th, 2005, 09:52 AM

Ok, lets say its legit. I´m sorry i didn´t read about his trip. My apologizes. But it´s so well done!

Will it be 50i-60i? no doubt if they used so big bunch of equip they wouldn´t try the cineframe thing. Wich should be better to de-interlace, looking for quality results?

No idea of wich editor and plug-ins used. My imagination is absolutely dry at the moment. Its the "not believe till you see it" problem. Sure it´s over the top machinery and a good pro team working around to make the FX1look so impressive.

How can we get so far so quickly with technology? It looks like in a couple of years everything will be about the talent and knowledge of the people you are working with, and not about the latest techy thing (that´s my hope). In fact, it looks like this now, but not as evident as the moment we will have true 24p HD(v) in hands. Then teams will forget about perfect film look and worry about other productions needs.

I wish the best for the cameras to come.

Chris Hurd · January 29th, 2005, 10:23 AM

I'm pretty sure it's legitimate -- no real reason to doubt it -- besides, P+S Technik would know for sure, since they would keep a close eye on where their first units go, and to whom, for marketing purposes. That's why I was asking about some productions stills, there's bound to be some that were taken.

January 27th, 2005, 10:58 PM	#17
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	:) I like. __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

January 28th, 2005, 01:56 AM	#19
Harris Ueng Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 55	Beautiful work! Catchy, toe-tappin' tune to boot. Nice rhythmic editing that goes well with the music. Esp. like the shots of the grinning bus driver. Definitely ups the humor of the piece. Seriously, beautiful footage with a cam that's supposed to be for "prosumers". :-) Truly shows that it's the talent behind the camera with the right tools in hand and not just the camera itself. Thanks for sharing! __________________ ELeven Feet Media, LLC - a nimble design & brand communications firm for growing companies http://www.elevenfeetmedia.com

January 28th, 2005, 09:00 AM	#22
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	As for myself, I'd like to see some production stills showing the FX1 / Mini35 setup on location. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 28th, 2005, 05:56 PM	#24
John Gaspain Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: WA-USA Posts: 371	<<<-- Originally posted by Shannon Rawls : I am now questioning if this is even the FX1. - Shannon W. Rawls -->>> I was wondering that myself, im trying to refrain from speculation. What other boards was this posted on? __________________ The glory of the World passes by.

January 28th, 2005, 06:39 PM	#25
Ivan Hurtado Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Granada, Spain Posts: 75	Yes, i was absolutely amazed at the beggining with this piece of art, but as nobody answered, im getting to the point of doubting its veracity. If this footage is real, after post and everything, it means prosumers can get to the point of enjoy explaining what people is waching is in fact digital, and smile with their open mouths. But i think this is another thing (I really hope Christopher corrects me). How many of us were waching it over and over tip-tapping as the song played? and how many of us asked who were the players? New old kind of publicity method maybe, kind of mouth to mouth... But as im interested in getting the Z1 i will still be hoping its real thing, at least in my heart. Anyway, it is a very well done video with nice music. __________________ IvI

January 27th, 2005, 08:26 PM	#16
Anhar Miah Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kindom, England Posts: 290	http://www.hmanvisions.com/videos/fettesbrot.mov making link clickable to save target as...

January 28th, 2005, 01:43 AM	#18
Jack McCann New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16	Hi Christopher, What did you do to get the vignette look in most of the shots? Was that in-camera or done in post? Thanks, great looking footage by the way. J

January 28th, 2005, 05:48 AM	#20
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	<<<-- Originally posted by Anhar Miah : http://www.hmanvisions.com/videos/fettesbrot.mov making link clickable to save target as... -->>> Can I get a better quality version? Where? From what I see I can mostly judge framing and editing, but the HDV quality seems lost in the very low resolution version. I have tried with Media Player and Quicktime and it looks the same, and it's set for high resolution. Carlos

January 28th, 2005, 08:27 AM	#21
Jeff Patnaude Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Duluth, Georgia Posts: 248	Higher rez would be great, but I want to know where I can get the CD? Danka! Jeff Patnaude

January 28th, 2005, 04:36 PM	#23
Shannon Rawls Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 853	I am now questioning if this is even the FX1. On 3 different boards people are asking all kindsa questions...mainly the same ones. Not one question has been answered. Just posted the video, and left.... I'm not as excited as I was anynmore. As of now, for all I know, this was shot on 35mm or HDCAM. - Shannon W. Rawls

January 28th, 2005, 07:09 PM	#26
Andreas Fernbrant Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden - Helsingborg Posts: 283	I think that one point is beeing overseen, As someone else pointed out here before, this peice was filmed by a experienced DP. Most probably he could have gotten almost the same results from a XL2 or DVX100. The "resolution" factor is not the issue here. Colorcontrol, correct exposure and the right frameing are a much bigger issue. Most likely the peice was colorcorrected by a pro too. Also remember that he has equipment for over twice the price of the camera infront of his lens makeing this possible. I don't have any doubts about getting results like this with the FX1. /Andreas

January 28th, 2005, 08:04 PM	#27
Jed Williamson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 175	If you go to the main page of the website it says he is in buenos aires from 1.28 to 2.17

January 29th, 2005, 03:11 AM	#28
Eric Gorski Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Western Oregon Posts: 138	its legit.. he's using a mini35 image converter and probably using some lenses that cost 3 times as much as the camera.

January 29th, 2005, 09:52 AM	#29
Ivan Hurtado Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Granada, Spain Posts: 75	Ok, lets say its legit. I´m sorry i didn´t read about his trip. My apologizes. But it´s so well done! Will it be 50i-60i? no doubt if they used so big bunch of equip they wouldn´t try the cineframe thing. Wich should be better to de-interlace, looking for quality results? No idea of wich editor and plug-ins used. My imagination is absolutely dry at the moment. Its the "not believe till you see it" problem. Sure it´s over the top machinery and a good pro team working around to make the FX1look so impressive. How can we get so far so quickly with technology? It looks like in a couple of years everything will be about the talent and knowledge of the people you are working with, and not about the latest techy thing (that´s my hope). In fact, it looks like this now, but not as evident as the moment we will have true 24p HD(v) in hands. Then teams will forget about perfect film look and worry about other productions needs. I wish the best for the cameras to come. __________________ IvI

January 29th, 2005, 10:23 AM	#30
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I'm pretty sure it's legitimate -- no real reason to doubt it -- besides, P+S Technik would know for sure, since they would keep a close eye on where their first units go, and to whom, for marketing purposes. That's why I was asking about some productions stills, there's bound to be some that were taken. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!