FX1 and Beachtek

Bryan McCullough · February 12th, 2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Hans ter Lingen
I don't understand your eplanation. If I only want to use the built in mike you in fact say it is crap since it picks up all kinds of sound like zooming, focussing etc.. Sony should have noticed this themself or am i so stupid ???

Hans,

I don't think there's a camcorder out there with a built-in mic that's worth anything. If you're shooting family vacations or Christmas morning then picking up a little zoom noise isn't the end of the world.

For professional audio you should never use a built-in mic. Get a decent shotgun mic and you're all set.

Hans ter Lingen · February 12th, 2005, 11:24 PM

If that is the case why don't they ommitt the internal mic all together. They already did this for the crappy external shot gone which you got with the PD150/170

Steven Gotz · February 12th, 2005, 11:36 PM

The internal mic comes in handy when trying to sync the external audio when a clapboard is not available.

And those of us who shoot on vacation like having it. :-)

Douglas Spotted Eagle · February 13th, 2005, 12:17 AM

Hans,
The built in mic is no better nor worse than any other cam-built in mic. If you're serious about good sound, and serious about getting a good pickup of audio, you should NEVER use the built in mic. This is why the XLR inputs of the Z1 are so important. You simply can't get good sound with any camera mounted mic. Sometimes in run n' gun the Shotgun mounted is good, but that's an exception, not a rule.
So, yes, the cam mic will pick up some zoom and button noise, just like any other mounted mic.

Hans ter Lingen · February 13th, 2005, 02:44 AM

I never heard this complaint about the pd170 !!!! Why doesn't Sony ommitt the internal mic. This would reduce the price of the z1 since everybody anyway buy an external mic!!! With the money thay save they could bring the audio electronics of the z1 to a higher level.

Bryan McCullough · February 13th, 2005, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hans ter Lingen
Why doesn't Sony ommitt the internal mic. This would reduce the price of the z1 since everybody anyway buy an external mic!!!

Because more people would complain about the lack of a built-in mic than those that complain about it picking up some camera noise.

Sean M Lee · February 13th, 2005, 09:55 AM

I can hear the complaints now...."I spent $5 grand on this #$*#ing camera and it doesn't have a mic!?" LOL

Greg Jacobson · February 13th, 2005, 03:10 PM

I spent 5 grand on this camera and now I gotta go spend $49.99 at Guitar Center for a damn mic!!!!!!!!!

Bryan McCullough · February 13th, 2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Greg Jacobson
I spent 5 grand on this camera and now I gotta go spend $49.99 at Guitar Center for a damn mic!!!!!!!!!

Spend more than that, it'll be worth it.

My shotgun is now on its second camera, and will probably make it to the next one in a few years.

Good audio gear will last a loooong time, don't go cheap on it in the beginning.

Jasenn Robertson · February 13th, 2005, 10:11 PM

What shotgun mic are you using Bryan? Or better put, what mic is riding shotgun on your FX-1?

February 12th, 2005, 11:36 PM	#18
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	The internal mic comes in handy when trying to sync the external audio when a clapboard is not available. And those of us who shoot on vacation like having it. :-) __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

February 13th, 2005, 12:17 AM	#19
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Hans, The built in mic is no better nor worse than any other cam-built in mic. If you're serious about good sound, and serious about getting a good pickup of audio, you should NEVER use the built in mic. This is why the XLR inputs of the Z1 are so important. You simply can't get good sound with any camera mounted mic. Sometimes in run n' gun the Shotgun mounted is good, but that's an exception, not a rule. So, yes, the cam mic will pick up some zoom and button noise, just like any other mounted mic. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

February 13th, 2005, 10:11 PM	#25
Jasenn Robertson New Boot Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 19	What shotgun mic are you using Bryan? Or better put, what mic is riding shotgun on your FX-1? __________________ Jasenn Robertson, Editor Alexandria, VA

February 12th, 2005, 11:24 PM	#17
Hans ter Lingen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 55	If that is the case why don't they ommitt the internal mic all together. They already did this for the crappy external shot gone which you got with the PD150/170

February 13th, 2005, 02:44 AM	#20
Hans ter Lingen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 55	I never heard this complaint about the pd170 !!!! Why doesn't Sony ommitt the internal mic. This would reduce the price of the z1 since everybody anyway buy an external mic!!! With the money thay save they could bring the audio electronics of the z1 to a higher level.

February 13th, 2005, 09:55 AM	#22
Sean M Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indy Posts: 160	I can hear the complaints now...."I spent $5 grand on this #$*#ing camera and it doesn't have a mic!?" LOL

February 13th, 2005, 03:10 PM	#23
Greg Jacobson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York Posts: 141	I spent 5 grand on this camera and now I gotta go spend $49.99 at Guitar Center for a damn mic!!!!!!!!!