Hype/excitment Z1/FX1 over !! at DVinfo.net

Hans ter Lingen · March 26th, 2005, 01:28 AM

Can we now get honest opinions about this camera? By now everyone which possesses this cam has tried all options and is now able to tell us how it compares to other cameras like the xl2 or PD170. I know it is difficult to be honest ones you both such an expensive cam and it turns out that it (maybe) has flaws you didn't expect but let's just give it a try!!!!!

Colvin Eccleston · March 26th, 2005, 02:26 AM

All I know is that I am never going back to standard definition. I like the Sony and that is as big a cam as I want to use. I don't like shoulder cams, I know too many pros with bad backs.
The Sony is enough cam for me at the moment but when a model with d-t-d and progressive turns up, I will trade it in.

Luis Caffesse · March 26th, 2005, 02:58 AM

"when a model with d-t-d and progressive turns up, I will trade it in"

You may want to get ready then.
:)

JVC & Panasonic are right around the corner.

Gareth Watkins · March 26th, 2005, 05:50 AM

Hi all

It seems to me all these cameras are just tools... if they do the job then that's fine with me.

There are an awful lot of people who are simply in love with the gear and never use it to the full or don't need to use it to make a living.

The same was true when I was working for a news Agency as a news photographer.. We got given the cameras the agency bought.. not necessarily the latest wizzbang SLR, but a good pro camera.. they did the job. (I've seen rich amateur photographers at the French tennis open in the directors boxes, with far better gear than we used to use..LOL)

At the mo I've just got an FX1 because it seemed a more reasoned choice than the the PD170 (the SD 16:9 capability, was reason enough). Also it was cheaper than the XL2 and as I've used Sony before I prefer their ergonomics..

this camera will do the job I want it to do.. just like my original Eos 1 from 1992 still shoots great stills..

When I need 24p or HD I'll look for a new model..

I don't know, but to get this type of camera you need a good reason.. unless you have loads of wedge to waste..

anyway just my three euros worth on the gear subject...
Cheers

Gareth

Christopher C. Murphy · March 26th, 2005, 09:22 AM

It's awesome. The only downside is fast motion ain't so great, so run and gun videographers should consider that.

Eric James · March 26th, 2005, 09:35 AM

I love it! I've now shot live action(Formula Racing) for TV, Super slow-mo to super fast-mo for a music video, and finally the past week I've been shooting a feature film. I have yet to find anything I don't like about this camera. I have shot hundreds of hours with a vx-2000 and a dvx-100a. I have also had a couple hours on the F900HD sony. I would say this cam, for what I need it for, blows away all of these other cameras.

Again, to get good results from any of these cameras you need to know how to shoot correctly. When you shoot correctly with the FX1 you will fall in love! It's just amazing to watch the footage each day. I still haven't gotten used to it.

If the newer HDV cam's are as good or better than the FX1 we are in for a very bright future. I don't know about all of you but all of this gets me very excited about being a film maker. We now have no excuses for making crappy videos, no blaming DV or anything else. We have the tools, they are CHEAP! Now let's all go out there and make it happen.

Thanks,
Eric James

Chris Hurd · March 26th, 2005, 09:38 AM

I think it's safe to say that Sony has hit a solid home run with the FX1 / Z1 camcorders.

Joe Carney · March 26th, 2005, 10:41 AM

Going out on a limb here, I think the Z1 will become the #1 eng cam worldwide, which is a much bigger market than Independent feature makers. They don't need 'the film look', they need good enough to get the job done.
From a maintenance standpoint, you can get it fixed in any country Sony sells equipment.

And If you are doing any sort of syndicated live shows (Wild on..,Behind the Music..., place your boring self absorbed celebrity here...) this will be the camera to beat.

March 26th, 2005, 02:58 AM	#3
Luis Caffesse Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 704	"when a model with d-t-d and progressive turns up, I will trade it in" You may want to get ready then. :) JVC & Panasonic are right around the corner. __________________ Luis Caffesse Pitch Productions Austin, Texas

March 26th, 2005, 09:22 AM	#5
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	It's awesome. The only downside is fast motion ain't so great, so run and gun videographers should consider that. __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

March 26th, 2005, 09:38 AM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I think it's safe to say that Sony has hit a solid home run with the FX1 / Z1 camcorders. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 26th, 2005, 01:28 AM	#1
Hans ter Lingen Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 55	Hype/excitment Z1/FX1 over !! Can we now get honest opinions about this camera? By now everyone which possesses this cam has tried all options and is now able to tell us how it compares to other cameras like the xl2 or PD170. I know it is difficult to be honest ones you both such an expensive cam and it turns out that it (maybe) has flaws you didn't expect but let's just give it a try!!!!!

March 26th, 2005, 02:26 AM	#2
Colvin Eccleston Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 93	All I know is that I am never going back to standard definition. I like the Sony and that is as big a cam as I want to use. I don't like shoulder cams, I know too many pros with bad backs. The Sony is enough cam for me at the moment but when a model with d-t-d and progressive turns up, I will trade it in.

March 26th, 2005, 05:50 AM	#4
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi all It seems to me all these cameras are just tools... if they do the job then that's fine with me. There are an awful lot of people who are simply in love with the gear and never use it to the full or don't need to use it to make a living. The same was true when I was working for a news Agency as a news photographer.. We got given the cameras the agency bought.. not necessarily the latest wizzbang SLR, but a good pro camera.. they did the job. (I've seen rich amateur photographers at the French tennis open in the directors boxes, with far better gear than we used to use..LOL) At the mo I've just got an FX1 because it seemed a more reasoned choice than the the PD170 (the SD 16:9 capability, was reason enough). Also it was cheaper than the XL2 and as I've used Sony before I prefer their ergonomics.. this camera will do the job I want it to do.. just like my original Eos 1 from 1992 still shoots great stills.. When I need 24p or HD I'll look for a new model.. I don't know, but to get this type of camera you need a good reason.. unless you have loads of wedge to waste.. anyway just my three euros worth on the gear subject... Cheers Gareth

March 26th, 2005, 09:35 AM	#6
Eric James Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 126	I love it! I've now shot live action(Formula Racing) for TV, Super slow-mo to super fast-mo for a music video, and finally the past week I've been shooting a feature film. I have yet to find anything I don't like about this camera. I have shot hundreds of hours with a vx-2000 and a dvx-100a. I have also had a couple hours on the F900HD sony. I would say this cam, for what I need it for, blows away all of these other cameras. Again, to get good results from any of these cameras you need to know how to shoot correctly. When you shoot correctly with the FX1 you will fall in love! It's just amazing to watch the footage each day. I still haven't gotten used to it. If the newer HDV cam's are as good or better than the FX1 we are in for a very bright future. I don't know about all of you but all of this gets me very excited about being a film maker. We now have no excuses for making crappy videos, no blaming DV or anything else. We have the tools, they are CHEAP! Now let's all go out there and make it happen. Thanks, Eric James

March 26th, 2005, 10:41 AM	#8
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Going out on a limb here, I think the Z1 will become the #1 eng cam worldwide, which is a much bigger market than Independent feature makers. They don't need 'the film look', they need good enough to get the job done. From a maintenance standpoint, you can get it fixed in any country Sony sells equipment. And If you are doing any sort of syndicated live shows (Wild on..,Behind the Music..., place your boring self absorbed celebrity here...) this will be the camera to beat.