Whats a good depth of field lens? at DVinfo.net

Kyle Fasanella · June 24th, 2005, 12:00 PM

Hey guys Im filming a larger movie soon and I want this camera to have depth of feild more than it already has. Can anyone recomend a depth of field lens. I will pay a lot if its worth it for the preformance.

and im also looking for a small lens feild kit. do thoes go cheap? I dont think so. but I have not seen many.

Stefan Scherperel · June 25th, 2005, 01:07 AM

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Your going to need to fill us in a little bit here.
I'm assuming that what you mean by "good depth of field" is shallow depth of field, whereas good is more of an opinion. I'm also assuming that you are looking for a lens adapter for the Z1 or FX1, hence the forum.
There is no lens that will give you "good" depth of field for every shot. What are you shooting. Do you have space to set up the camera far away from the subject, or background? Getting shallow depth of field basically means having a long zoom, and a wide aperature. There is more to it than this, but in a nutshell that iw what you need to do. Open up the iris as wide as it will go, set the background as far away as possible from your subject, and get as telephoto as possible for that particular shot as room will allow.

Bill Pryor · June 25th, 2005, 12:13 PM

He could be talking about one of those $10,000 spinning ground glass adapters too.

Usually when we say "good depth of field" that means lots of depth if field, versus shallow depth of field, which you get in your closeups if your aperture is open enough.

John McGinley · June 25th, 2005, 12:18 PM

http://www.redrockmicro.com/p_wizard_1.htm

This one is slightly less.

Kyle Fasanella · June 27th, 2005, 12:19 AM

shallow depth of field is what i want. can i do this witha widescreen? whats a good widescreen for this camera?

Tom Hardwick · June 27th, 2005, 06:08 AM

You can film in wide-screen with this camera Kyle - or am I not understanding you?

Anyway, if you want less depth of field (dof) in your shots, shoot at maximum telephoto (54 mm), maximum aperture (f/2,8) and closest focus. Then make sure the background is as far away as possible.

For even less dof you can shoot with telephoto converters and close-up lenses, neither of which will reduce your maximum aperture.

tom.

Kyle Fasanella · June 27th, 2005, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Hardwick

For even less dof you can shoot with telephoto converters and close-up lenses, neither of which will reduce your maximum aperture.

tom.

do you recomend any lens?

Tom Hardwick · June 28th, 2005, 12:56 AM

The Canon C8 1.4x telephoto converter is good, though you'll need a 72 mm > 62 mm step-down ring. It'll increase the FX's telephoto reach to 74 mm, a much needed focal length for anyone who's stepped up from the VX/PD series.

Rafael Metz · June 29th, 2005, 12:45 AM

Are you sure you really want to shoot a "larger movie"?
As far as I can see you´ve no idea what DOF is, and that there are no "widescreen" lenses - only wideangles´.
I recommend that you´ll assist a DoP and learn basic principles about photography rather than operating yourself.

Michael Struthers · June 29th, 2005, 03:23 PM

Forget about assisting a DP, just GET a DP.

June 24th, 2005, 12:00 PM	#1
Kyle Fasanella Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 66	Whats a good depth of field lens? Hey guys Im filming a larger movie soon and I want this camera to have depth of feild more than it already has. Can anyone recomend a depth of field lens. I will pay a lot if its worth it for the preformance. and im also looking for a small lens feild kit. do thoes go cheap? I dont think so. but I have not seen many.

June 25th, 2005, 01:07 AM	#2
Stefan Scherperel Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 209	??????????? Your going to need to fill us in a little bit here. I'm assuming that what you mean by "good depth of field" is shallow depth of field, whereas good is more of an opinion. I'm also assuming that you are looking for a lens adapter for the Z1 or FX1, hence the forum. There is no lens that will give you "good" depth of field for every shot. What are you shooting. Do you have space to set up the camera far away from the subject, or background? Getting shallow depth of field basically means having a long zoom, and a wide aperature. There is more to it than this, but in a nutshell that iw what you need to do. Open up the iris as wide as it will go, set the background as far away as possible from your subject, and get as telephoto as possible for that particular shot as room will allow. __________________ Stefan Scherperel SSE Productions http://www.stefweb.net

June 29th, 2005, 03:23 PM	#10
Michael Struthers Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, Ca Posts: 421	Forget about assisting a DP, just GET a DP. __________________ Michael Struthers www.buzzdigital.com

June 25th, 2005, 12:13 PM	#3
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	He could be talking about one of those $10,000 spinning ground glass adapters too. Usually when we say "good depth of field" that means lots of depth if field, versus shallow depth of field, which you get in your closeups if your aperture is open enough.

June 25th, 2005, 12:18 PM	#4
John McGinley Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 142	http://www.redrockmicro.com/p_wizard_1.htm This one is slightly less.

June 27th, 2005, 12:19 AM	#5
Kyle Fasanella Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 66	shallow depth of field is what i want. can i do this witha widescreen? whats a good widescreen for this camera?

June 27th, 2005, 06:08 AM	#6
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	You can film in wide-screen with this camera Kyle - or am I not understanding you? Anyway, if you want less depth of field (dof) in your shots, shoot at maximum telephoto (54 mm), maximum aperture (f/2,8) and closest focus. Then make sure the background is as far away as possible. For even less dof you can shoot with telephoto converters and close-up lenses, neither of which will reduce your maximum aperture. tom.

June 28th, 2005, 12:56 AM	#8
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	The Canon C8 1.4x telephoto converter is good, though you'll need a 72 mm > 62 mm step-down ring. It'll increase the FX's telephoto reach to 74 mm, a much needed focal length for anyone who's stepped up from the VX/PD series.

June 29th, 2005, 12:45 AM	#9
Rafael Metz New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 24	Are you sure you really want to shoot a "larger movie"? As far as I can see you´ve no idea what DOF is, and that there are no "widescreen" lenses - only wideangles´. I recommend that you´ll assist a DoP and learn basic principles about photography rather than operating yourself.