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Steve Kuh December 23rd, 2005 02:47 PM

Live News Gathering testing with Sony HDV
 
Anyone interested in evaluating our portable Sony-HDV to ASI converter unit for a live HDV shooting? We have this new product developed and would like to hear if there is anyone interested in evaluating our product.

This battery operated portable unit will mount under the camera, plug into 1394 port via a 12" cable, operate for 8 hours, and generate an ASI output. The ASI signal can be uplinked or microwaved back to studio for a live HDV programming.

We have only tested with Sony HVR-Z1 camera. I would love to hear user comments and evaluations before we release this product...

Shannon Rawls December 23rd, 2005 03:48 PM

Steve, sure.
I have both a Sony Z1U and a new Canon XL-H1.
And I'm bored for the holidays. *smile*

How can I be of service? If you need someone with a news truck who can uplink the ASI signal, then I can't help you, sorry. But if you have all the covered and want to do something (maybe the Rose Parade or Community Day 2006), then let me know.

- ShannonRawls.com

Mike Tiffee December 23rd, 2005 08:31 PM

Yeah, come on down to the Rose Parade- I'll be down there technical directing the ABC broadcast and I'm thinking of bringing my FX-1 - since our broadcast is in HD.

Shannon, I'd love to check out the XL-H1! If you come down, we can put the camera into my switcher using HD-SDI and do some tests. We'll have HD-SDI scopes and monitors.

Mike Tiffee

Steve Kuh December 25th, 2005 08:59 AM

I am going to take on your offers and go to the Rose Parade. I live in Northridge... so it will be a short trip. I will be bringing Sony Z1U and our 1394-to-ASI converter. Maybe we can hook up and do some testing...

I look forward to seeing you guys. Can we meet at the ABC truck location?

Jack Zhang December 25th, 2005 04:13 PM

I just wish that our only local digital news provider, BC CTV, had this technology the next time they go to the PNE for CTV News @ 5 and 6 Live from the PNE in HD. Do you wanna see Tamara Taggart in HD? (If you don't know her, google her)

Mike Tiffee December 26th, 2005 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Zhang
Do you wanna see Tamara Taggart in HD?

Yes, Please.

John McGinley December 29th, 2005 10:49 AM

Hey guys, don't forget your rain covers, it's supposed to rain from Saturday to Monday in Pasadena.

Mike Tiffee December 29th, 2005 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by John McGinley
Hey guys, don't forget your rain covers, it's supposed to rain from Saturday to Monday in Pasadena.

Thanks for raining on my parade! :-)

John McGinley December 30th, 2005 09:32 PM

I went to the Holiday Bowl last night, and noticed that ESPN was using CBS's equipment, and with CBS broadcasting 1080i and ABC/ESPN broadcasting 720p, what is the story with their cameras? Do they have dual capability or is the down conversion done in the truck?

As an aside, it was a great game, nice to see my Sooners win a bowl, the last 2 have been less than fun.

Mike Tiffee December 31st, 2005 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John McGinley
I went to the Holiday Bowl last night, and noticed that ESPN was using CBS's equipment, and with CBS broadcasting 1080i and ABC/ESPN broadcasting 720p, what is the story with their cameras? Do they have dual capability or is the down conversion done in the truck?

As an aside, it was a great game, nice to see my Sooners win a bowl, the last 2 have been less than fun.

None of the networks really own much of equipment they use on remote sports broadcasts. They rent trucks from vendors. Sometimes networks have special requirements and contract with a truck company to build a truck to certain specifications- like "Super Shooter 24" was built specifically for CBS and their "A" football show. (It's also the sweetest truck on the road right now - IMO)
http://guardian.nepinc.com/packages/ss24/index.php
When the networks enter a long-term agreement with a truck company and specific truck, they many times have decals placed on the truck and stickers put on the cameras, etc. I've done shows with NBC logos on the truck that were covered with ABC banners.

I can't speculate as to what was happening at the Holiday Bowl, but the entire broadcast could've been done in 1080i then cross-converted (not down-converted) to 720p before transmission to ESPN. It's also possible the truck is capable of dual format. SS24 for example has the Sony HDC900 cameras which are capable, with an extra card inserted, of 720p.

At last years Rose Parade we used a 1080i only truck and cross-converted. This year we're producing and broadcasting in 720p- using SS19, one of the newest HD trucks on the road.
http://guardian.nepinc.com/packages/ss19/index.php

John McGinley January 1st, 2006 01:24 AM

It may very well be that truck you speak of as there were 2 trucks parked side by side much like the ss24 diagram. CBS did the San Diego Chargers game today which is probably why that CBS tagged equipment was used for the Holiday Bowl.

What exactly is the difference between cross conversion and down conversion?

Thanks for the info.. good stuff.

Mike Tiffee January 1st, 2006 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John McGinley
What exactly is the difference between cross conversion and down conversion?

Thanks for the info.. good stuff.

up-conversion - going from SD to HD
down-conversion - going from HD to SD
cross-conversion - going between HD formats

The truck that did the holiday bowl was Gamecreek Patriot. Most all trucks have a "B" unit that parks next door- this truck usually houses graphics and extra vendors like 1st and 10 yellow line stuff, robotic camera operator positions, etc.

John McGinley January 1st, 2006 03:43 PM

I see. thanks for all the info.


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