Compare HVR-ZI sd footage to PD 170 at DVinfo.net

Ralph Bowman · March 17th, 2006, 12:58 AM

I know high definition footage can knock off my socks but does the Standard Def output of the HVR-ZI look $1000+ better than the PD 150 or PD 170? It would seem too soon to go High Def since most people don't own the TV sets
and so can't appreciate your new investment in high definition. Your input since, I am looking at making a purchase.

Thanks,

Ralph Bowman

Gareth Watkins · March 17th, 2006, 01:56 AM

Hi Ralph

If you are after SD 4:3 footage then the answer to your question qwould be 'No'... the Z1 does not give $1000 superior pictures....

If you want to use it in native 16:9, as it is really intended, then the shots are far better than the widescreen generated by the PD170.

You could always get an FX1 and a Beachtek and save your $1000.

Regards

Gareth

Patrick Pike · March 17th, 2006, 10:27 AM

If it were me (and I just replaced my GL2's with a Z1's) I would make the jump to HDV. Shoot everything in HDV, then if the client wants it in SD, just downconvert on the fly to SD and edit in SD. Then you basically have an offline edit of the HD version should you ever need it (or the client wants to pay for it).

John Rofrano · March 18th, 2006, 09:14 AM

Obviously this must be subjective because even $1000 is worth a different amount to different people. I would have to agree that for SD footage alone, the $1000 is not worth it since you are really paying the $1000 for an HDV camera with higher resolutions CCD’s, glass, etc.

I will say that footage shot in HDV and downconverted to SD is absolutely gorgeous and it noticeably better quality than footage shot in SD. This is because you are starting with more resolution so there is more information in the SD image in the end.

I would think of the Z1U has an investment that pays off today and more tomorrow. You will get better quality SD today. You will also get more money for your PD-170 today than you will tomorrow (when no one will want to buy an SD camera) and you will get much better quality tomorrow when your clients want HD. It’s a win-win scenario and an investment that keeps getting better.

~jr

March 17th, 2006, 12:58 AM	#1
Ralph Bowman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Grants Pass, Oregon Posts: 59	Compare HVR-ZI sd footage to PD 170 I know high definition footage can knock off my socks but does the Standard Def output of the HVR-ZI look $1000+ better than the PD 150 or PD 170? It would seem too soon to go High Def since most people don't own the TV sets and so can't appreciate your new investment in high definition. Your input since, I am looking at making a purchase. Thanks, Ralph Bowman

March 18th, 2006, 09:14 AM	#4
John Rofrano Sponsor: VASST Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 516	Obviously this must be subjective because even $1000 is worth a different amount to different people. I would have to agree that for SD footage alone, the $1000 is not worth it since you are really paying the $1000 for an HDV camera with higher resolutions CCD’s, glass, etc. I will say that footage shot in HDV and downconverted to SD is absolutely gorgeous and it noticeably better quality than footage shot in SD. This is because you are starting with more resolution so there is more information in the SD image in the end. I would think of the Z1U has an investment that pays off today and more tomorrow. You will get better quality SD today. You will also get more money for your PD-170 today than you will tomorrow (when no one will want to buy an SD camera) and you will get much better quality tomorrow when your clients want HD. It’s a win-win scenario and an investment that keeps getting better. ~jr __________________ Developer: VASST Ultimate S, Scattershot 3D, Mayhem, FASST Apps, and other VASST Software plug-ins Web Site: www.johnrofrano.com

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March 17th, 2006, 01:56 AM	#2
Gareth Watkins Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: France Posts: 578	Hi Ralph If you are after SD 4:3 footage then the answer to your question qwould be 'No'... the Z1 does not give $1000 superior pictures.... If you want to use it in native 16:9, as it is really intended, then the shots are far better than the widescreen generated by the PD170. You could always get an FX1 and a Beachtek and save your $1000. Regards Gareth

March 17th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#3
Patrick Pike Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mariposa, CA Posts: 200	If it were me (and I just replaced my GL2's with a Z1's) I would make the jump to HDV. Shoot everything in HDV, then if the client wants it in SD, just downconvert on the fly to SD and edit in SD. Then you basically have an offline edit of the HD version should you ever need it (or the client wants to pay for it).