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Old June 29th, 2006, 07:32 AM   #1
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Polarizer for the FX1

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I want to buy a nice polarizer for my FX1 and I really don't know which one to choose. I looked around here and read many very subjective opinions about multi-coated, circular, etc. I've read somewhere that if I use a wide angle over it or if I zoom in all the way the camera might film the filters' interior...something I really don't want to happen. I've seen some Hoyas and Tiffens but there's so many variations I don't really know what to do. The main reason I want it is to obtain that nice contrast/saturated look. Any advice is welcome.

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Old June 29th, 2006, 09:50 AM   #2
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i took the Hoya pro digital circular polarizer for several reason.
1) it is multicoated , so less loss of light and better picture.
2) it is thinner than regular ones (1mm glass versus 2 or 3 mm glass)
3) it is threaded on both sides, so you can screw another filter on it.
3) the body is low profile, so it fits inside the original sunshade box of the FX1. I modified the plastic sunshade to add a wheel that let me turn the filter.
4) it is among the best filter for all reason above and you can still find it for cheap (i purchased mine from China on ebay for 90$, while regular shop are displaying prices as high as 240$)
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Old June 29th, 2006, 10:04 AM   #3
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Thanks for the help. All the points you mentioned make really a lot of sense.

Is it any of these?:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search
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Old June 29th, 2006, 12:01 PM   #4
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i think it is none of these model.
the first one listed at B&H looks pretty the same except they specify there is no front thread, while mine got one.
i think at b&h it is this one.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ist&sku=306010
it is the Hoya 72mm 72 Super PRO1 Circular .
Where i buy it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7605705533
and it is 100$ less than b&h.

about a week for delivery.
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Old June 29th, 2006, 12:44 PM   #5
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Thanks a bunch Giroud. How is the filter working for you? Do you have any online footage I could maybe see? Is this ebay filter trust worthy? A hundred bucks cheaper makes me kind of supecious.
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Old June 29th, 2006, 12:59 PM   #6
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i was like you , but at this price, took the risk (expecting some cheap copy)
The packaging looks like a real one and the quality of the aluminium frame and glass does not look cheap at all.
All markings are good and original.
for the sample, i am afraid that except posting a huge file, you would see nothing interesting with a compressed wmv file for the web (and there is no photo mode on this camera)
By this sunny summer time, there is no risk to take is to shoot outside.
if you shoot in dark rooms (church or restaurant at night) , you should take care about the 1.3 loss with sensibility.
I shoot a children performance (about 100 of them with some dark scene) and totally forget it was on (hidden into the sunshade).
Since there was several other camera (including my old VX2000) , i can say that except for very dark scene, it was ok even with the filter.
On the other hand, you can consider the filter acting a bit like a ND filter, so it gives you better DOF effect.

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Old June 30th, 2006, 03:56 AM   #7
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Thanks. I just ordered one!
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Old June 30th, 2006, 06:57 PM   #8
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I think Hoya puts a huge premium on their stuff. I bought a 3 filter kit on ebay for about US$25, that includes a Polarizer with all the features of the Hoya (double thread, fits under lens hood etc). I can't comment on the quality difference of the two, but I have been really happy with mine!
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Old July 1st, 2006, 05:35 AM   #9
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I think Hoya puts a huge premium on their stuff. I bought a 3 filter kit on ebay for about US$25, that includes a Polarizer with all the features of the Hoya (double thread, fits under lens hood etc). I can't comment on the quality difference of the two, but I have been really happy with mine!
The problem with certain filters, like polarizers or NDs, are color aberrations and distortions. IMO, higher priced filters are usually a bit better in that area.
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Old July 1st, 2006, 07:38 AM   #10
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Tarde demais, Carlos. Agora já comprei ;-)
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Old July 1st, 2006, 09:12 PM   #11
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Tarde demais, Carlos. Agora já comprei ;-)
Hablo español y portugués. No hablo catalán ;-).

I meant to comment on Ainslie's purchase. Large filters tend to be expensive, and when you pay less there's always some sacrifice. Like pure coating or glass which is not the same all over, or things like that.

A thin filter like that Hoya you bought seems to be nice.
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Old July 2nd, 2006, 04:07 AM   #12
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I'll try to post some HD footage when I get it.

Também não falo catalan...sou do Jardim Botânico.
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I'll try to post some HD footage when I get it.

Também não falo catalan...sou do Jardim Botânico.

Você pode me contactar?


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Old July 13th, 2006, 11:47 AM   #14
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Giroud, I just received my the polarizer. It is amazing. You can select the intensity and everything. Today it's pretty clowdy so I won't be able to fully apreciate it's effect but as soon as it's sunny and I have some free time I'm going to test this baby. Thanks for the awesome tip!
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Old July 13th, 2006, 05:20 PM   #15
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cloudy sky get a great improvement from polarizer.
now you get the filter , you need to go with the FX1 sunshade modification, in order to keep it on camera and still able to rotate it easily.
see:
http://www.giroud2.com/divers/pola1.jpg
http://www.giroud2.com/divers/pola2.jpg
http://www.giroud2.com/divers/pola3.jpg

not very nice, but efficient, i can roll the wheel and by friction it rotate
the filter, so you can adjust it just with your thumb.

you just need to drill a serie of small holes (about 2mm of diameter) then join them
to create a slot. Find a plastic or metal wheel (mine was stripped off from a small tape player and added plastic around for better grip on the filter ).
keep the axis a bit loose, so you can pop on and off the sunshade easily, the pressure of the finger will do the rest.
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