FX1 - should I be looking at the DVX?

Heath McKnight · July 23rd, 2006, 07:18 PM

1. Do a de-interlace and you should get a 30p look with 60i.

2. Use a DI (Direct/Digital Intermediate) to edit native .m2t files (mpeg2-ts), like CineForm's products (PC-only).

I HIGHLY recommend grabbing a copy of the latest edition of VASST's HDV: What You NEED To Know book (volume 2):

http://www.vasst.com/product.aspx?id...0-0ad68139e940

We talk a lot about the HDV cameras, including the first JVC cams, and a bunch of different workflows with all kinds of NLEs, including proxies for PCs and Macs. And, of course, we cover software like Nattress and Film Maker (but not Magic Bullet, sorry).

heath

Bruce S. Yarock · July 24th, 2006, 03:53 AM

Heath,
Thanks. What you're suggesting is to use the film maker program as opposed to Mb for deinterlacing?
I'll take a look at the vast book.
Bruce S. Yarock

Heath McKnight · July 24th, 2006, 08:08 AM

I haven't used Magic Bullet, that's what I mean. If you're on a Mac, I like both DVFilm Maker and Nattress. For PCs, I like Maker. I hear Magic Bullet is excellent.

hwm

Bruce S. Yarock · July 24th, 2006, 08:25 AM

Heath,
We're on pc with Premiere pro. We'll try both MB and film maker.
Bruce S. Yarock

Heath McKnight · July 24th, 2006, 08:32 AM

And make sure you're using a DI when capturing. Sure, a different flavor of HD can increase disk size, but it's so much easier to edit than native HDV/m2t.

Try AspectHD for free:

http://cineform.com/products/AspectHDPPro.htm

Try DVFilm Maker for free:

http://dvfilm.com/maker/index.htm

Not sure if you can try Magic Bullet for free:

http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magicbullet.html

heath

Duane Harper Grant · July 24th, 2006, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath McKnight

Some tips when using HDV:

I usually shoot in 50i with CineFrame 25, edit, convert it to an uncompressed HD codec (photojpeg, 75% quality in Final Cut Pro) and then make it a QuickTime movie (NOT a conversion). I then conform it to 23.98 fps in CinemaTools and re-import into FCP and then into a 23.98 timeline/sequence. I then add music and color correct. This is a workflow developed by Graeme Nattress.

heath

Thanks for all the really specific work flow information, tips and know how!
One question (hopefully not to dumb); in converting the 50i to uncompressed HD codec (photojepeg, 75% in FCP) - this process is done in FCP or do you use nattress or dvfilmmaker to convert it?

Thanks!
Duane

Heath McKnight · July 24th, 2006, 11:34 PM

It's in Final Cut Pro. When you're finished cutting, simply copy the project and open up a new timeline. Set it to 50i and then change the QuickTime settings under Sequence Settings to Photojpeg and the quality to 75% (this is not dropping the visual quality, just the compression from 10 bit, or 100%, to 8 bit, or 75%). Then File, Export, QuickTime Movie (NOT conversion).

hwm

ps-This is if you shot with CineFrame 25 on; if not, use a good de-interlacer.

Duane Harper Grant · July 25th, 2006, 05:09 AM

Thank you Heath!

As a dv newbe it's good to have a viable workflow for CineFrame25.

Heath McKnight · July 25th, 2006, 08:52 AM

Thank Graeme Nattress who came up with it!

hwm

July 23rd, 2006, 07:18 PM	#16
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	1. Do a de-interlace and you should get a 30p look with 60i. 2. Use a DI (Direct/Digital Intermediate) to edit native .m2t files (mpeg2-ts), like CineForm's products (PC-only). I HIGHLY recommend grabbing a copy of the latest edition of VASST's HDV: What You NEED To Know book (volume 2): http://www.vasst.com/product.aspx?id...0-0ad68139e940 We talk a lot about the HDV cameras, including the first JVC cams, and a bunch of different workflows with all kinds of NLEs, including proxies for PCs and Macs. And, of course, we cover software like Nattress and Film Maker (but not Magic Bullet, sorry). heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 24th, 2006, 08:08 AM	#18
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	I haven't used Magic Bullet, that's what I mean. If you're on a Mac, I like both DVFilm Maker and Nattress. For PCs, I like Maker. I hear Magic Bullet is excellent. hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 24th, 2006, 08:32 AM	#20
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	And make sure you're using a DI when capturing. Sure, a different flavor of HD can increase disk size, but it's so much easier to edit than native HDV/m2t. Try AspectHD for free: http://cineform.com/products/AspectHDPPro.htm Try DVFilm Maker for free: http://dvfilm.com/maker/index.htm Not sure if you can try Magic Bullet for free: http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magicbullet.html heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 24th, 2006, 11:34 PM	#22
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	It's in Final Cut Pro. When you're finished cutting, simply copy the project and open up a new timeline. Set it to 50i and then change the QuickTime settings under Sequence Settings to Photojpeg and the quality to 75% (this is not dropping the visual quality, just the compression from 10 bit, or 100%, to 8 bit, or 75%). Then File, Export, QuickTime Movie (NOT conversion). hwm ps-This is if you shot with CineFrame 25 on; if not, use a good de-interlacer. __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 25th, 2006, 08:52 AM	#24
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Thank Graeme Nattress who came up with it! hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

July 24th, 2006, 03:53 AM	#17
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Heath, Thanks. What you're suggesting is to use the film maker program as opposed to Mb for deinterlacing? I'll take a look at the vast book. Bruce S. Yarock

July 24th, 2006, 08:25 AM	#19
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Heath, We're on pc with Premiere pro. We'll try both MB and film maker. Bruce S. Yarock

July 25th, 2006, 05:09 AM	#23
Duane Harper Grant Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 26	Thank you Heath! As a dv newbe it's good to have a viable workflow for CineFrame25.