Timecode burn from Z1U? at DVinfo.net

Rachael Rowan · December 2nd, 2006, 06:22 AM

Hello all,

I am trying to solve a problem with people out in the field with Z1U's being able to get footage with TC burn out of a Z1U.

I can't find any option to turn on output of TC display while going into a laptop via firewire.

I don't need full resolution stuff, as this is just to have the footage with the TC as a reference. So, we're not talking about a full editing set-up, but a lap-top and a Z1U, and I'm trying to find a way to get the footage into the laptops with TC burn (no matter where in the world they are) before the tapes get back to the edit bay. However, being in various countries doesn't mean I can say "run out to Fryes Electronics and pick up a ***".

I was wondering if anyone has any ideas of how to do this easily?

Thanks a lot!

-RR

Douglas Spotted Eagle · December 2nd, 2006, 10:18 AM

There is no way to send a window burn that I'm aware of. Various softwares will allow you to insert a window burn, or you can use a monitoring software that will allow you to see the incoming as a burn, but that's the only method I'm aware of.
The T/C is embedded in the stream, and the Z1 and Sony decks will allow you to see the data code at any time.

Ron Evans · December 2nd, 2006, 11:30 AM

This software on your laptop will allow you to do what you want , I think?
http://www.enosoft.net/enosoftdvprocessor.html

Ron Evans

Douglas Spotted Eagle · December 2nd, 2006, 11:39 AM

The Enosoft software is very clever stuff, been playing with it for a bit, but it's DV-only. It can't manage the HDV stream.

Rachael Rowan · December 2nd, 2006, 12:12 PM

Thanks Douglas spotted Eagle and Ron. I appreciate your info.

I'm not shooting with this camera myself so I'm not totally familiar with it (I'm shooting HD XD mostly), but can't you downconvert in the camera and output SD? In that case, would this software not be able to handle it?

Just wondering.

-RR

Douglas Spotted Eagle · December 2nd, 2006, 12:44 PM

If you set the cam to downconvert on the fly (1394 output) then yes, Enosoft can handle it. The nice thing is that with the Z1, you can record HDV and output DV at the same time.

Rachael Rowan · December 2nd, 2006, 01:09 PM

I thought so! Thanks!

I just downloaded it. I will get someone with a Z1U to try it, and I will report back how it goes! It looks like it will do the trick.

It looks like there are some other very useful features there too.

Ron, do you know the cost of the full software?

Ron Evans · December 3rd, 2006, 07:56 AM

Its in beta at the moment but their only other product is $14 . It seems a very useful piece of software. Like a DV Tools without the monitor etc. I have been looking at it as it will record more than one DV stream at a time too or sync more than one PC.

Ron

Rachael Rowan · December 4th, 2006, 04:55 AM

I tried the Inosoft DV processor with my HD XDCAM (as I don't have a Z1U in front of me) and it worked wonderfully. It's really simple, and I was able to get TC burn no problem. It output an AVI file which I can also import into all kinds of programs to be able to trim it down and such.

They do have another program, which I downloaded but haven't tried yet. There are instructions on the site for how to get TC burn, but it seems far more complicated than with the DV Processor.

I haven't heard back from the guys that have Z1U's yet, but if it works with my camera then I am certain it will work with the Z1U.

Thank you all for the help.

-RR

December 2nd, 2006, 06:22 AM	#1
Rachael Rowan New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 10	Timecode burn from Z1U? Hello all, I am trying to solve a problem with people out in the field with Z1U's being able to get footage with TC burn out of a Z1U. I can't find any option to turn on output of TC display while going into a laptop via firewire. I don't need full resolution stuff, as this is just to have the footage with the TC as a reference. So, we're not talking about a full editing set-up, but a lap-top and a Z1U, and I'm trying to find a way to get the footage into the laptops with TC burn (no matter where in the world they are) before the tapes get back to the edit bay. However, being in various countries doesn't mean I can say "run out to Fryes Electronics and pick up a ***". I was wondering if anyone has any ideas of how to do this easily? Thanks a lot! -RR

December 2nd, 2006, 10:18 AM	#2
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	There is no way to send a window burn that I'm aware of. Various softwares will allow you to insert a window burn, or you can use a monitoring software that will allow you to see the incoming as a burn, but that's the only method I'm aware of. The T/C is embedded in the stream, and the Z1 and Sony decks will allow you to see the data code at any time. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

December 2nd, 2006, 11:39 AM	#4
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	The Enosoft software is very clever stuff, been playing with it for a bit, but it's DV-only. It can't manage the HDV stream. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

December 2nd, 2006, 12:12 PM	#5
Rachael Rowan New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 10	Could it handle it downconverted Thanks Douglas spotted Eagle and Ron. I appreciate your info. I'm not shooting with this camera myself so I'm not totally familiar with it (I'm shooting HD XD mostly), but can't you downconvert in the camera and output SD? In that case, would this software not be able to handle it? Just wondering. -RR

December 2nd, 2006, 12:44 PM	#6
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	If you set the cam to downconvert on the fly (1394 output) then yes, Enosoft can handle it. The nice thing is that with the Z1, you can record HDV and output DV at the same time. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

December 2nd, 2006, 11:30 AM	#3
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	This software on your laptop will allow you to do what you want , I think? http://www.enosoft.net/enosoftdvprocessor.html Ron Evans

December 2nd, 2006, 01:09 PM	#7
Rachael Rowan New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 10	I thought so! Thanks! I just downloaded it. I will get someone with a Z1U to try it, and I will report back how it goes! It looks like it will do the trick. It looks like there are some other very useful features there too. Ron, do you know the cost of the full software?

December 3rd, 2006, 07:56 AM	#8
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	Its in beta at the moment but their only other product is $14 . It seems a very useful piece of software. Like a DV Tools without the monitor etc. I have been looking at it as it will record more than one DV stream at a time too or sync more than one PC. Ron

December 4th, 2006, 04:55 AM	#9
Rachael Rowan New Boot Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: los angeles, ca Posts: 10	I tried the Inosoft DV processor with my HD XDCAM (as I don't have a Z1U in front of me) and it worked wonderfully. It's really simple, and I was able to get TC burn no problem. It output an AVI file which I can also import into all kinds of programs to be able to trim it down and such. They do have another program, which I downloaded but haven't tried yet. There are instructions on the site for how to get TC burn, but it seems far more complicated than with the DV Processor. I haven't heard back from the guys that have Z1U's yet, but if it works with my camera then I am certain it will work with the Z1U. Thank you all for the help. -RR