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Old May 11th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #1
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Sharing my experience with the Z7 for wildlife

I am not happy to hear about all the problems some people have with the camera/lens and I hope these issue will be addressed and fixed. However, I only use the Z7 for wildlife with Nikon still lenses mounted on it and I am very pleased with the results.

Focusing is very easy when using the 'peaking' function and the viewfinder set to B&W.
Getting the exposure right is also easy with the histogram and zebra (set to 100).

The image quality is superb - especially when using top quality lenses. The Nikon 80-200 f2.8 still lens which is my main lens is performing very well with excellent image quality. An even better result I get with the Nikon 300 f2.8 manual focus fixed lens. I find it a bit problematic to work with a fixed lens though so I am looking to get a longer zoom lens to complement my Nikon 80-200 f2.8.

I consider getting the Nikon 200-400 f4 which is supposed to be a fantastic zoom lens although it is not cheap. (5 grand or so.)
Keep in mind that these still lenses when mounted on the Z7 become 7-8 times longer - the 80-200 behaves like 600-1600mm or so and the 200-400 like 1600-3200mm lense !!!! You must get a solid support for such long telephoto lenses. I use Miller carbon fibres tripod with a Vinten - Vision 3 fluid head which seem to deliver the goods.

I though I won't be able to use any lens which doesn't have an aperture ring but I think this is probably not true: the default position of a lens when mounted on a camera is wide open. By using the 4 ND built in filters and three levels of gain (-6, -3, 0) I can control the light in any day light even in a relatively slow ss of 1/50.

Everything is done manually. I shoot 1080i, 25p, 1/50, gain (-6, -3, 0).

I would love to hear your thoughts and comments.

Cheers,

Ofer Levy
Sydney, Australia
http://www.oferlevyphotography.com

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Old May 12th, 2008, 09:58 AM   #2
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Nikon lens adapter?

Ofer,

What adapter do you use to mount your Nikon lenses on the Z7, and where did you get it? Thanks.

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Old May 12th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #3
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Hi Tom,

Got it from Mike Tapa - http://www.mtfservices.com

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Old May 12th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #4
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Hi Tom,

Got it from Mike Tapa - http://www.mtfservices.com

Cheers,
Ofer
I got mine from there too, a really nicely made adaptor.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 09:19 AM   #5
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I too bought my dapter from Mike Tapa...it arrived from the UK in three days!!!
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Old May 13th, 2008, 12:15 PM   #6
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Ofer, regarding image quality in shooting wildlife scenery with the Z7- are you seeing any excess noise are macro-blocking in the image?

I ask because panning on trees and shrubbery are the best way to break down a codec such as HDV.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 04:02 PM   #7
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Hey Ofer,

When will you be posting up some video clips? Dying to see some of your work with the nikon and z7u.
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Be aware that although the Nikon 200-400 does indead have a superb rep, it's not got an aperture ring, it's a "G" lens.
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Old May 13th, 2008, 04:40 PM   #9
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Ofer, regarding image quality in shooting wildlife scenery with the Z7- are you seeing any excess noise are macro-blocking in the image?

I ask because panning on trees and shrubbery are the best way to break down a codec such as HDV.
Hi Justin, I am afraid I don't understand the term - macro-blocking- please explain this to me.
Regarding noise, I don't see any excessive noise - keep in mind I mostly use -6 gain.

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Hey Ofer,

When will you be posting up some video clips? Dying to see some of your work with the nikon and z7u.
Hi Greg, I promise you I am as keen to post some clips as I would love to hear your comments and critique however, I still don't have the proper computer nor the software to do it. I am hoping to organize it in a few weeks.
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the best way to describe macro-blocking is that mpeg compression creates artifacts along a grid pattern throughout the frame. Some people are really picky and sometimes it takes a keen eye to see this, not that it is a bad thing.

Any body have a more technical description?

Can't wait to see the footage!
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Old May 13th, 2008, 05:28 PM   #11
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the best way to describe macro-blocking is that mpeg compression creates artifacts along a grid pattern throughout the frame. Some people are really picky and sometimes it takes a keen eye to see this, not that it is a bad thing.

Any body have a more technical description?

Can't wait to see the footage!
I don't think I can see this artefact and I believe I have a reasonably keen eye....(-:

Some of the shots I get - especially using the Nikon 300 f2.8 manual focus lens are truly awesome. Sharpness and detail are the standards I am used to from my still photography.
I have noticed a phenomenon which I am not happy with: when I get the subject big in the frame and the BG is very blurred - especially when it has some bright patches in it, I get many small dots or little circles, which I find distracting. It looks similar to the effect you get with a mirror lens.

I have a feeling it has something to do with the fact I shoot wide open so I will have to test it.

Does anyone have a better explanation for this?
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