Sony A mount adapter

Randy Johnson · June 23rd, 2014, 08:37 PM

Out of curiosity which color preset do you use, I get much brighter pictures with 3 or 4 BUT I like the look of 2. 3 makes things look "flat" where 2 crushes the blacks and really makes the colors pop.

Chris Harding · June 23rd, 2014, 09:35 PM

Hi Randy

I have been fussing over picture profiles for a long time now. Currently I am still using PP3 but I have lifted the color level up two points. Being such a flat profile it still needs a bit of saturation boost for indoor shots and quite a lot for outdoor. In Sony Vegas I have to lift indoor footage from default (1) to (1.166) and outdoor footage from 1 to 1.333

The issue is to find a profile that you can use both indoors and outdoors ...If you read Dave Vickers post here, the golf video was shot with no profile (set it to "off" ...That gives awesome colour outdoors but indoor shots are over saturated and a bit red according to Dave.

I'm doing some tests today to see if it's better to use "no profile" and then leave outside footage as it stands and then correct my indoor footage ... at the moment I have to correct both indoor and outdoor

It's an ongoing dilemma but I'll try some footage today and see how Dave's suggestion works.

Chris Harding · June 23rd, 2014, 11:53 PM

I did some shots today in the kitchen so under fluro lights but also some daylight coming in too.
Profiles 1, 5 and 6 are definitely much too contrasty
Profile set to "OFF" is quite nice but the blacks are a little too black so for indoors maybe too much contrast
Profiles 2 and 4 indoors are actually very nice and yes both 2 and 4 do pop the colour and would work well outdoors as well.

I think that in very low light and at night you might have to de-saturate PP2 or PP4 but the 5 and 6 and no profile would be an overkill under low light or venue light. I'll try a few shots under table lamps when it gets dark.

Outdoor shoots seem to be less critical than indoor using profiles but looking at them overall Maybe PP4 would be a good start point or even PP2 even though it's supposed to be a STILLS profile. I think it's very hard to tell until you actually shoot a wedding in one profile at look at the results. Maybe I need to lift my colour level in PP3 another two points which would mean just a tweak for outdoor shots as indoor would be fairly good ..however I do agree that PP2 does make the colours pop regardless of what it was designed for.

Randy Johnson · June 24th, 2014, 08:23 AM

one of the reasons I want faster lenses is because I like the look of the the 2nd preset, 3 and 4 are good in low light because they bring the blacks to about 7.5 ire in a pinch i'll use them but I want to use 2 for the darker rich blacks and bright colors it gives.

June 23rd, 2014, 08:37 PM	#16
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Sony A mount adapter Out of curiosity which color preset do you use, I get much brighter pictures with 3 or 4 BUT I like the look of 2. 3 makes things look "flat" where 2 crushes the blacks and really makes the colors pop.

June 23rd, 2014, 09:35 PM	#17
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Sony A mount adapter Hi Randy I have been fussing over picture profiles for a long time now. Currently I am still using PP3 but I have lifted the color level up two points. Being such a flat profile it still needs a bit of saturation boost for indoor shots and quite a lot for outdoor. In Sony Vegas I have to lift indoor footage from default (1) to (1.166) and outdoor footage from 1 to 1.333 The issue is to find a profile that you can use both indoors and outdoors ...If you read Dave Vickers post here, the golf video was shot with no profile (set it to "off" ...That gives awesome colour outdoors but indoor shots are over saturated and a bit red according to Dave. I'm doing some tests today to see if it's better to use "no profile" and then leave outside footage as it stands and then correct my indoor footage ... at the moment I have to correct both indoor and outdoor It's an ongoing dilemma but I'll try some footage today and see how Dave's suggestion works.

June 23rd, 2014, 11:53 PM	#18
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Re: Sony A mount adapter I did some shots today in the kitchen so under fluro lights but also some daylight coming in too. Profiles 1, 5 and 6 are definitely much too contrasty Profile set to "OFF" is quite nice but the blacks are a little too black so for indoors maybe too much contrast Profiles 2 and 4 indoors are actually very nice and yes both 2 and 4 do pop the colour and would work well outdoors as well. I think that in very low light and at night you might have to de-saturate PP2 or PP4 but the 5 and 6 and no profile would be an overkill under low light or venue light. I'll try a few shots under table lamps when it gets dark. Outdoor shoots seem to be less critical than indoor using profiles but looking at them overall Maybe PP4 would be a good start point or even PP2 even though it's supposed to be a STILLS profile. I think it's very hard to tell until you actually shoot a wedding in one profile at look at the results. Maybe I need to lift my colour level in PP3 another two points which would mean just a tweak for outdoor shots as indoor would be fairly good ..however I do agree that PP2 does make the colours pop regardless of what it was designed for. Last edited by Chris Harding; June 24th, 2014 at 03:42 AM. Reason: Update

June 24th, 2014, 08:23 AM	#19
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Re: Sony A mount adapter one of the reasons I want faster lenses is because I like the look of the the 2nd preset, 3 and 4 are good in low light because they bring the blacks to about 7.5 ire in a pinch i'll use them but I want to use 2 for the darker rich blacks and bright colors it gives.