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Old July 22nd, 2010, 02:07 PM   #1
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Is the Premiere 5 Trial DV Only?

I'm a FCP user but I just downloaded Premiere 5 to see how it handles the NX5U metadata as well as LPCM audio. I can't seem to import any footage. When I create a new project the only format option I have is DV.

So is the Premiere 5 Trial DV Only?

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Old July 22nd, 2010, 02:28 PM   #2
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Unfortunately yes. I have cineform so I could at least use that codec when I was using the trial.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 04:42 PM   #3
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Joe, I can confirm that as well. Adobe intentionally cripples the AVCHD abilities in the trial version...

I did buy the CS5 Production Premium suite, however, and found that Adobe Media Encoder does preserve original camera timecode when transcoding to ProRes...which was very encouraging. And although I haven't tested out the LPCM part of it, I hear from others that it does work.

I'll be doing more tests (visual and audio) in the near future and will post the results....John
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 04:51 PM   #4
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Thanks John. I'm most interested in the LPCM.

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Old July 22nd, 2010, 06:06 PM   #5
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Are we talking about Premiere 5 or Premiere Pro CS5?

There's 12 years development and a whole world of difference between the two.

If we are talking about CS5, then I find it remarkable that the AVCHD has been crippled in the trial version - after all, the huge speed increases when editing long-g.o.p. codecs is the main thing most people would want to sample before upgrading.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 07:39 PM   #6
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Yes we are talking about the latest and greatest PPCS5. I have the entire Master Suite and really find it to be the first upgrade in the history of PP that has been well worth the money. I swore I would never buy another, but for once I'm really glad I did.
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 10:17 PM   #7
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I find it remarkable that the AVCHD has been crippled in the trial version - after all, the huge speed increases when editing long-g.o.p. codecs is the main thing most people would want to sample before upgrading.
Adobe didn't "cripple" the trial version...

All the formats you are referring to are MPEG based. HDV, XDcam (all variants) and Canon XF are MPEG2, and AVCHD, AVC-intra, and DSLR are MPEG4.

The Motion Pictures Experts Group charges a fee for each time these codecs are distributed. Adobe would be paying MPEG licensing on thousands of free downloads if those codecs were in the trial version.

The DVC formats are all freely distributable.

So...no, Adobe isn't holding out on you.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 02:00 AM   #8
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Whether one regards the trial version as 'crippled' or not it does render it useless as an evaluation version for many users. It was only after I had downloaded the 1.5+GB trial kit & installed it that I too discovered that it didn't handled H.264 MPEG4 so there is certainly no way that I will become a customer for Adobe if I can't confirm that handling such files smoothly that they made such a song & dance about really is true.

The trial version of AVID MC5 is not crippled & can edit H.264 MPEG4.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 07:55 AM   #9
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I already have the CS 4 Production bundle so it would be only $600 to upgrade to CS 5, but I don't want to spend the money if it doesn't do what I want.

BTW - I already uninstalled and deleted the trial version from my computer.

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Old July 23rd, 2010, 09:51 PM   #10
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We have threads like this with every new version of software. You can download the free trial (without mpeg-based capability) to see if you like the software. If you want to try the full version and don't have a colleague or friend who will let you take it for a test spin, you can buy it to try it, and if not happy, return it within 30 days. I don't see why all the handwringing about this?
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Old July 24th, 2010, 12:06 AM   #11
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This happened to me when I downloaded a free trial of Premiere Pro CS4. I almost thought that I must have done something wrong until I searched the net and saw that AVCHD will not work. I still end up buying it the student version of Production Premium and wasn't that happy with AVCHD editing especially knowing that Nero 9 is a heck of a lot more stable, I mean, I couldn't tell the difference editing DV and AVCHD files in Nero 9. Basically any simple fast editing went to Nero Vision 9 and advanced editing went to Premiere CS4. Now that I have CS5, it's almost as if Nero Vision 9 isn't on my laptop. I have an ATI card but I do notice a stability boost. That's a very good thing because I really didn't want to spend money on CS5 and not get any gains at all. That would have been a nightmare. I can edit AVCHD files mixed with HDV and/OR DVCPRO-HD files without issues.

Anyway, I think anybody should notice at the very least a slight boost or greater, no matter what the specs are in your computer and I do believe that Adobe should somehow come up with an agreement to lower the licencing. Perhaps give people 1 to 7 days to try out AVCHD editing. I mean even if it's just 1 day, that's a heck of a lot better than not allowing people to try it out.
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Old July 24th, 2010, 12:20 AM   #12
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you can buy it to try it, and if not happy, return it within 30 days.
I don't know of any retailer that will accept opened software for refund perhaps things are different where you live?
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Old July 24th, 2010, 07:23 AM   #13
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Nigel,

As far back as I can remember, Adobe has always had a 30-day return. If you bought it at a retailer and they won't assist, contact Adobe:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/153/tn_15327.html#main_I want to return my order
Return, cancel, or change an Adobe order (EMEA, APAC)

I doubt if they are getting many returns on CS5, though. If all else fails, take a small loss and sell your license to another DVinfo member.
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Old July 24th, 2010, 11:48 AM   #14
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Nigel,

As far back as I can remember, Adobe has always had a 30-day return. If you bought it at a retailer and they won't assist, contact Adobe:

Return or change Adobe orders | North America want to return my order
Return, cancel, or change an Adobe order (EMEA, APAC)
Thanks for that info I shall store it away for future reference:-)

That is very enlightened of Adobe I have honestly never come across a a retailer accepting opened box returns & software is explicitly excluded from EU Distance Selling Regulations.
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