Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens at DVinfo.net

Derran Rootring · June 15th, 2011, 03:22 AM

Just a short test video I made yesterday with the FS100 and the kit lens.
Nothing special, but I thought others might like to see it also.

You can also watch it on YouTube: YouTube - ‪NEX-FS100 (NXCAM Super 35mm Sensor Camcorder) Short Video‬&rlm;

Gabe Strong · June 15th, 2011, 09:54 AM

Nice! For all the bashing of that lens I've heard, it seems to produce
some pretty nice looking images. Looks like you were shooting in the
sun, what did you use for ND?

Derran Rootring · June 15th, 2011, 05:22 PM

Yes I also think the lens is better then some of the reviews might let you think it is.
Of course there are better lenses to buy, but I think it's great to start with the kit lens. It can produce very sharp and nice looking images and works great for run'n'gun shooting.

Even if I would own a Nikon to E-mount adapter, and able to put my Nikon lenses on the camera, I would still keep this lens in my camera bag.

Derran Rootring · June 16th, 2011, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe Strong

...what did you use for ND?

Didn't use a ND filter. The local camera store was out of stock! Bummer :)

Gabe Strong · June 16th, 2011, 10:16 AM

Thanks for the update! I was just wondering, although for run and
gun you can just iris down. I have been looking at the new Tiffin
variable ND that was introduced at NAB, and at the variable ND that
Phillip Bloom reviews on his blog as two possible options. They both
claim to not introduce color casts and claim to be very sharp. Might
be some good options to look at, if you are willing to spend $300 on a
variable ND filter.

Anyways, it's nice to see footage that looks that
good out of the kit lens! My original idea was to buy the camera with
the kit lens to use for run and gun shooting (probably giving a look more
similar to an EX-1 type camera) and then buy a couple 'fast' zooms
with a good variable ND filter to use for more controlled set ups,
so I could get the shallow depth of field look. Then, I had a lot of
people telling me that the kit lens 'sucked' and so forth. Of course most
people saying this were more of the 'cinematic' type shooters, so they don't
see a use for a slower zoom lens. I wasn't expecting the kit lens to be as
nice as a good fast lens, but was hoping it would be usable. Judging from your
images, it can certainly produce some good looking stuff!!

Derran Rootring · June 21st, 2011, 12:28 PM

Did some more testing and creative shooting with the camera today.
The footage was not altered, graded or manipulated.
You can watch it here: YouTube - ‪NEX-FS100 NXCAM Super 35mm Sensor Camcorder - Short Video 2‬&rlm;

... or watch it on Vimeo:

Gabe Strong · June 21st, 2011, 04:03 PM

How are you getting the shallow depth of field without having any ND?
Faster shutter speeds? On a side note, I very much dislike Fed Ex right
now. I ordered my FS-100 UK on Thursday of last week and paid an extra
$155 to have it delivered 2nd day air. I have been tracking it, it made it
to Seattle by Friday at 4pm. And it hasn't moved since. As of right now,
which is 2pm on Tuesday, it is still in Seattle. Why again did I pay
extra to Fed Ex? I know better than to do that.....

Gabe Strong · June 21st, 2011, 10:38 PM

Sorry Fed Ex, I apologize. As I was sitting at my desk stewing....wondering
WHY my camera was sitting in Seattle for 2 straight days without moving, and
going on the third straight day, I started refreshing my Fed Ex shipping
status every 10 minutes. Just as I was about to go out and gas up my
SUV for a couple shoots I have coming up, I refreshed, and lo and
behold, the status changed from Seattle to Juneau. It wasn't due to be
delivered until tomorrow, but I figured I'd take a chance and swing by
Fed Ex as I was going that way to get gas anyways.....and a very nice
lady went into the back and brought me the camera! I quickly
put it together and shot some video of my daughter's softball game.
I'll post that up in another thread, I'm impressed with how
well the kit lens works as a 'run and gun' with pretty nice autofocus
and auto iris. For most things, I wouldn't use it, but it's nice
to know it's there, for fast moving events. With the kit lens, you
get more of a look like a EX series, but it looks really nice,
even on wide shots......good resolution. I'll probably get a
24-70 2.8 lens as soon as I can find a ND solution. But as
I was estimating, the kit lens doesn't look bad at all, some people
may feel it 'sucks' but it seems to look pretty good to me. And
don't let it's slow speed fool you.....even with it, you really
need some ND as this chip is just amazing.

Derran Rootring · June 22nd, 2011, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe Strong

How are you getting the shallow depth of field without having any ND?
Faster shutter speeds?

Yes, I use higher shutter speeds to get this effect. But I'm still looking for a good ND filter solution.
Good to hear you have the camera now! Not sure if you had time to do this already, but you can get very nice results by tweaking the picture profiles a bit.

Gabe Strong · June 22nd, 2011, 10:38 AM

Darren,

Thanks for the info! I'm going to try the shutter speed thing, at
least for landscapes. I haven't played with the picture profiles yet,
but hope to soon. What settings have you found looked good?

Chuck Green · June 24th, 2011, 04:29 PM

There is a rotating double polarixzing filter which fits the stock lens, and gives up to 4 stops of reduction. I bought it at B&H for the stock lens:
GEGLGNDF67

That said, I'm looking to sell the stock lens, and I guess the polarizer with it - the polarizer works fine, but the lens is not fast enough for my purposes, and the filter will not fit the Nikkor lens i'm renting now (77mm threads needed, vs. 67mm on hte FS-100.)

Derran Rootring · June 27th, 2011, 07:45 AM

Here'a a short video I made from airplanes landing at Schiphol Airport:
YouTube - ‪Airplanes landing on Schiphol (filmed with the Sony FS100)‬&rlm;

I didn't have a tripod with me and didn't plan on filming airplanes, but it's a nice example of shooting full auto (iris and focus) without a tripod on a very windy day with the 18-200mm kit lens and without ND filter.
Hopefully I can shoot this again on a tripod, with filter and full manual control of the camera.
So please, look at this footage as an example of how your footage will look when you didn't plan to film anything and see what the camera is capable of.

I've ordered two ND filters for the stock lens and one for the 16mm pancake lens. Hopefully they will reduce enough light to get the shutter speed down.

June 15th, 2011, 03:22 AM	#1
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Just a short test video I made yesterday with the FS100 and the kit lens. Nothing special, but I thought others might like to see it also. NEX-FS100 (35mm Sensor Camcorder) Short Video on Vimeo You can also watch it on YouTube: YouTube - ‪NEX-FS100 (NXCAM Super 35mm Sensor Camcorder) Short Video‬&rlm;

June 15th, 2011, 09:54 AM	#2
Gabe Strong Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 814	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Nice! For all the bashing of that lens I've heard, it seems to produce some pretty nice looking images. Looks like you were shooting in the sun, what did you use for ND?

June 15th, 2011, 05:22 PM	#3
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Yes I also think the lens is better then some of the reviews might let you think it is. Of course there are better lenses to buy, but I think it's great to start with the kit lens. It can produce very sharp and nice looking images and works great for run'n'gun shooting. Even if I would own a Nikon to E-mount adapter, and able to put my Nikon lenses on the camera, I would still keep this lens in my camera bag.

June 16th, 2011, 10:16 AM	#5
Gabe Strong Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 814	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Thanks for the update! I was just wondering, although for run and gun you can just iris down. I have been looking at the new Tiffin variable ND that was introduced at NAB, and at the variable ND that Phillip Bloom reviews on his blog as two possible options. They both claim to not introduce color casts and claim to be very sharp. Might be some good options to look at, if you are willing to spend $300 on a variable ND filter. Anyways, it's nice to see footage that looks that good out of the kit lens! My original idea was to buy the camera with the kit lens to use for run and gun shooting (probably giving a look more similar to an EX-1 type camera) and then buy a couple 'fast' zooms with a good variable ND filter to use for more controlled set ups, so I could get the shallow depth of field look. Then, I had a lot of people telling me that the kit lens 'sucked' and so forth. Of course most people saying this were more of the 'cinematic' type shooters, so they don't see a use for a slower zoom lens. I wasn't expecting the kit lens to be as nice as a good fast lens, but was hoping it would be usable. Judging from your images, it can certainly produce some good looking stuff!!

June 21st, 2011, 12:28 PM	#6
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Did some more testing and creative shooting with the camera today. The footage was not altered, graded or manipulated. You can watch it here: YouTube - ‪NEX-FS100 NXCAM Super 35mm Sensor Camcorder - Short Video 2‬&rlm; ... or watch it on Vimeo: NEX-FS100 footage (with 18-200 kit lens) on Vimeo

June 21st, 2011, 04:03 PM	#7
Gabe Strong Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 814	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens How are you getting the shallow depth of field without having any ND? Faster shutter speeds? On a side note, I very much dislike Fed Ex right now. I ordered my FS-100 UK on Thursday of last week and paid an extra $155 to have it delivered 2nd day air. I have been tracking it, it made it to Seattle by Friday at 4pm. And it hasn't moved since. As of right now, which is 2pm on Tuesday, it is still in Seattle. Why again did I pay extra to Fed Ex? I know better than to do that.....

June 21st, 2011, 10:38 PM	#8
Gabe Strong Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 814	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Sorry Fed Ex, I apologize. As I was sitting at my desk stewing....wondering WHY my camera was sitting in Seattle for 2 straight days without moving, and going on the third straight day, I started refreshing my Fed Ex shipping status every 10 minutes. Just as I was about to go out and gas up my SUV for a couple shoots I have coming up, I refreshed, and lo and behold, the status changed from Seattle to Juneau. It wasn't due to be delivered until tomorrow, but I figured I'd take a chance and swing by Fed Ex as I was going that way to get gas anyways.....and a very nice lady went into the back and brought me the camera! I quickly put it together and shot some video of my daughter's softball game. I'll post that up in another thread, I'm impressed with how well the kit lens works as a 'run and gun' with pretty nice autofocus and auto iris. For most things, I wouldn't use it, but it's nice to know it's there, for fast moving events. With the kit lens, you get more of a look like a EX series, but it looks really nice, even on wide shots......good resolution. I'll probably get a 24-70 2.8 lens as soon as I can find a ND solution. But as I was estimating, the kit lens doesn't look bad at all, some people may feel it 'sucks' but it seems to look pretty good to me. And don't let it's slow speed fool you.....even with it, you really need some ND as this chip is just amazing. Last edited by Gabe Strong; June 21st, 2011 at 11:54 PM.

June 22nd, 2011, 10:38 AM	#10
Gabe Strong Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Juneau, AK Posts: 814	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Darren, Thanks for the info! I'm going to try the shutter speed thing, at least for landscapes. I haven't played with the picture profiles yet, but hope to soon. What settings have you found looked good?

June 24th, 2011, 04:29 PM	#11
Chuck Green New Boot Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ashland, MA Posts: 9	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens There is a rotating double polarixzing filter which fits the stock lens, and gives up to 4 stops of reduction. I bought it at B&H for the stock lens: GEGLGNDF67 That said, I'm looking to sell the stock lens, and I guess the polarizer with it - the polarizer works fine, but the lens is not fast enough for my purposes, and the filter will not fit the Nikkor lens i'm renting now (77mm threads needed, vs. 67mm on hte FS-100.)

June 27th, 2011, 07:45 AM	#12
Derran Rootring Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 204	Re: Short video made with the FS100 & kit lens Here'a a short video I made from airplanes landing at Schiphol Airport: YouTube - ‪Airplanes landing on Schiphol (filmed with the Sony FS100)‬&rlm; I didn't have a tripod with me and didn't plan on filming airplanes, but it's a nice example of shooting full auto (iris and focus) without a tripod on a very windy day with the 18-200mm kit lens and without ND filter. Hopefully I can shoot this again on a tripod, with filter and full manual control of the camera. So please, look at this footage as an example of how your footage will look when you didn't plan to film anything and see what the camera is capable of. I've ordered two ND filters for the stock lens and one for the 16mm pancake lens. Hopefully they will reduce enough light to get the shutter speed down.