Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens?

Kieran Steele · July 10th, 2012, 05:07 AM

Hmm. Isn't that lens a SAM lens? I could have it the wrong way around. Isn't it the SSM lenses that are quicker and quiter for video?

Peter Corbett · July 10th, 2012, 05:33 AM

Yes, but the SSM's are a whole lot dearer. I may have to wait until I can test one in a shop.

Kieran Steele · July 10th, 2012, 06:22 AM

Good point. I think for me the Super zoom that stays on there for run and gun is the one I'll most likely use without off board audio. Therefore it may make sense to get one quiet as I can.
But then again might be a bit of MOS slomo product shots or action/wildlife in which case it doesn't matter

Ive got an SSM on the way. I gues the kit emount, Sony 50mm emount i have would both be Sam.
The Sony a mount tokina 11-16 would be noisy screw drive (did think it seemed noisy)
The metabones canon seems to make some noise Irising

Interesting to see how quiet the SSM is compared to kit lens and 50 emount

Another test :)

Bo-Ming Tong · July 12th, 2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alister Chapman

I did get the kit lens. It's so cheap when you buy it with the kit.

Although I don't like the lens, it is growing on me a little as the auto iris is much smoother than on a Canon DSLR lens. It's near impossible to see the iris steps. The autofocus on the FS700 works surprisingly well and I think one good way to use the kit lens is with the one push autofocus button. Trying to accurately focus manually with it is a bit of an art and can be very frustrating due to the lag and lack of repeatability.

Genuine E-mount lenses' aperture diaphragm is virtually stepless. Canon lenses' aperture diaphragms have a resolution of 1/8 stops, and quite significantly noisier, too.

Frank Glencairn · July 17th, 2012, 03:06 AM

I could not have shot this within 2 hrs without the kit lens.

95% handheld (FS100) jumping around between actors like a mad man, riding truck beds and Jeep bumpers.
Without the auto focus and active stabilization? No way.
Is it any worth? You tell me.

Frank

Dean Harrington · July 22nd, 2012, 05:22 PM

well done Frank and yes ... the lens is worth it ... my 2 cents!

Douglas Call · July 23rd, 2012, 02:39 PM

I got my FS700U with the 18-200mm Sony kit lens and thought that because it was an E-Mount lens, which is native Lens NEX Sony lens mount that the handle mounted Zoom control buttons would operate. However that didn't happen. Does anyone know if there are some other settings I need to set in the Menu's?

BTW Slow-Mo of kids in the Pool is great fun.

Chris Medico · July 23rd, 2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Douglas Call

I got my FS700U with the 18-200mm Sony kit lens and thought that because it was an E-Mount lens, which is native Lens NEX Sony lens mount that the handle mounted Zoom control buttons would operate. However that didn't happen. Does anyone know if there are some other settings I need to set in the Menu's?

BTW Slow-Mo of kids in the Pool is great fun.

Currently there are no lenses that responds to the zoom rocker on the FS700. It is indicated as being a future feature.

Douglas Call · July 23rd, 2012, 03:17 PM

OK Thanks Chris.

Yash Bagwandeen · March 26th, 2013, 02:23 PM

I did, and I'm really glad I did because the new-ish Tamron 70-200mm VC lenses don't work 100% through the metabones adaptor. Massive delay in iris control.

Wilf Davies · March 26th, 2013, 02:55 PM

Hi Recieved my 18-200 servo zoom today from Sony, firmwared my Fs700 to operate the zoom from the handle it all works fine. I am pretty impressed given the price, done some tests, and its not bad at all, only thing i have found when you zoom in to full tellephoto when you zoom out you get a slight focus ishew but you can overcome this buy zooming all the way in but just back off a tiney bit then zoom out that way for whatever the reason it does not happen. I am made up run and gun autofocus image staybalization decent servo zoom put on my metabones and prime lenses got the best of both worlds Thanks Wilf.

Douglas Call · March 26th, 2013, 03:14 PM

What link did you use to download the new firmware that lets you control the zoom button on your FS700?
I'm not sure that my zoom lens can bet controlled by the FS700 zoom I have the model SEL18200 version of the 18-200 zoom not the SELP18200 version which I think means power zoom

Wilf Davies · March 26th, 2013, 03:31 PM

Hi Your lens will not work because its not a power servo zoom even if you put on the latest firmware Thanks Wilf.

Douglas Call · March 27th, 2013, 05:40 AM

Thanks well guess I have a lens for sale :-)

Wilf Davies · March 27th, 2013, 07:21 AM

Hi Doug I have already sold mine got a reasonably good price for it, its a much better camera with a servo zoom on it. Get it sold on ebay Wilf.

July 10th, 2012, 05:07 AM	#16
Kieran Steele Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 37	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? Hmm. Isn't that lens a SAM lens? I could have it the wrong way around. Isn't it the SSM lenses that are quicker and quiter for video?

July 10th, 2012, 05:33 AM	#17
Peter Corbett Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 246	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? Yes, but the SSM's are a whole lot dearer. I may have to wait until I can test one in a shop. __________________ Peter Corbett Powerhouse Productions www.php.com.au

July 10th, 2012, 06:22 AM	#18
Kieran Steele Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 37	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? Good point. I think for me the Super zoom that stays on there for run and gun is the one I'll most likely use without off board audio. Therefore it may make sense to get one quiet as I can. But then again might be a bit of MOS slomo product shots or action/wildlife in which case it doesn't matter Ive got an SSM on the way. I gues the kit emount, Sony 50mm emount i have would both be Sam. The Sony a mount tokina 11-16 would be noisy screw drive (did think it seemed noisy) The metabones canon seems to make some noise Irising Interesting to see how quiet the SSM is compared to kit lens and 50 emount Another test :)

July 17th, 2012, 03:06 AM	#20
Frank Glencairn Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 176	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? I could not have shot this within 2 hrs without the kit lens. 95% handheld (FS100) jumping around between actors like a mad man, riding truck beds and Jeep bumpers. Without the auto focus and active stabilization? No way. Is it any worth? You tell me. Frank 1945 - Entering Germany part 2 - YouTube

July 22nd, 2012, 05:22 PM	#21
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? well done Frank and yes ... the lens is worth it ... my 2 cents! __________________ Sony EX3, Panasonic DVX 100, SG Blade, Nanoflash, FCP 7, MacBookPro intel. http://www.deanharringtonvisual.com/

July 23rd, 2012, 02:39 PM	#22
Douglas Call Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 302	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? I got my FS700U with the 18-200mm Sony kit lens and thought that because it was an E-Mount lens, which is native Lens NEX Sony lens mount that the handle mounted Zoom control buttons would operate. However that didn't happen. Does anyone know if there are some other settings I need to set in the Menu's? BTW Slow-Mo of kids in the Pool is great fun.

July 23rd, 2012, 03:17 PM	#24
Douglas Call Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 302	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? OK Thanks Chris.

March 26th, 2013, 02:23 PM	#25
Yash Bagwandeen New Boot Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South Africa Posts: 20	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? I did, and I'm really glad I did because the new-ish Tamron 70-200mm VC lenses don't work 100% through the metabones adaptor. Massive delay in iris control.

March 26th, 2013, 02:55 PM	#26
Wilf Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: BOLTON ENGLAND Posts: 77	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? Hi Recieved my 18-200 servo zoom today from Sony, firmwared my Fs700 to operate the zoom from the handle it all works fine. I am pretty impressed given the price, done some tests, and its not bad at all, only thing i have found when you zoom in to full tellephoto when you zoom out you get a slight focus ishew but you can overcome this buy zooming all the way in but just back off a tiney bit then zoom out that way for whatever the reason it does not happen. I am made up run and gun autofocus image staybalization decent servo zoom put on my metabones and prime lenses got the best of both worlds Thanks Wilf.

March 26th, 2013, 03:14 PM	#27
Douglas Call Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 302	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? What link did you use to download the new firmware that lets you control the zoom button on your FS700? I'm not sure that my zoom lens can bet controlled by the FS700 zoom I have the model SEL18200 version of the 18-200 zoom not the SELP18200 version which I think means power zoom

March 26th, 2013, 03:31 PM	#28
Wilf Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: BOLTON ENGLAND Posts: 77	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? Hi Your lens will not work because its not a power servo zoom even if you put on the latest firmware Thanks Wilf.

March 27th, 2013, 05:40 AM	#29
Douglas Call Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 302	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? Thanks well guess I have a lens for sale :-)

March 27th, 2013, 07:21 AM	#30
Wilf Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: BOLTON ENGLAND Posts: 77	Re: Just curious; did you buy the FS700 with kit lens? Hi Doug I have already sold mine got a reasonably good price for it, its a much better camera with a servo zoom on it. Get it sold on ebay Wilf.