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Old December 14th, 2013, 10:00 AM   #211
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more digging found this thread, talking about it. the connector is a sony proprietary modification of usb micro, Facilitating intervalometers/computer control for NEX line: Sony Alpha/NEX E-mount Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

how nice of them to make things difficult
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Old December 14th, 2013, 10:36 AM   #212
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Does the remote commander RM-VPR1 allow for variable speed zoom with the RX10? Can a "creep" speed be achieved and if so is it smooth?
No set speeds, with the RX10 if you lightly press you can get a slightly slower even zoom(about 70%)
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Old December 14th, 2013, 03:40 PM   #213
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@Darrin -

Yep, it looks like it's just a modification of the A/V jack implementation, just using unused pins of the micro USB, which is now a "standardized" connector - I heard from one source this was a "legislated" change so that we don't have so many proprietary USB chargers in landfills... now my phones ALL use it, and all the newer Sony cameras.

I don't see anything "difficult", other than the reverse engineering required to figure out pins and if they still use a "trigger" signal for various functions as the LANC on A/V did. It actually makes sense for Sony to finally avoid OVERLY proprietary standards - if you can charge your camera in an emergency with a phone charger, that could come in handy... and if there are a few "spare" pins not dedicated to any other functions, why not design in some more features!?


Your link was for the I/R, which is yet another "input" - previously you had A/V jack, AiShoe, and the I/R remote, now you have Micro USB, MiShoe and I/R - just changes of connectors really, and while "inconvenient", and I suppose a bit expensive if you have to buy all new remotes/etc., I'm actually pleased that the stuff is already available "off the shelf". And if the Sony community expands, as it no doubt will with the three innovative cameras just released, there WILL be more "hacker" interest, and probably more options!

I Googled the model #'s Paul provided, plenty of "hits", including the cable to adapt from A/V (so the RMAV I have would adapt, for instance) to the MicroUSB. Debating the "best" option for that... vs. the "new" remote. Either way, having a remote option for RX series cameras makes them that much closer to replacing video cams for many shooting scenarios. The RX10 will be more generally useful to me than a video camera, but I still see the slot for a PJ series in the "fleet", at least for now... though it just dropped a little farther!

Many moons ago I dreamed of having just a couple cameras to cover all the angles... this of course leads to a camera COLLECTION and a case of GAS, as you find different cameras are needed to do different things... the RX10 comes much closer to covering most of the scenarios and looks like it will cover them fairly well, so much of my thought right now is focused on... which cameras can be "re-homed" rather than sitting on the shelf!?
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Old December 14th, 2013, 05:54 PM   #214
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...Right now I just have to wrestle with my aversion to paying "retail" and pull the trigger on an RX10 - I was so hoping that there would be a flood of these "lightly used" from people who would be "disappointed" when they couldn't figure out how to use the camera...
Hi Dave - as of this post, there are five "lightly used" units at Amazon Warehouse Deals for $1195.07.

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Old December 16th, 2013, 12:47 AM   #215
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I really like this camera, I'm thinking serious about getting it. There is on thing that is holding me back, I want to know if this camera overheats at all, when recording to the 29 minute limit, The limit I can handle, but the overheating, No Way! I had Sony's Nex-7, nice video, but hughe problem with overheating, especially being erratic. In some ways I cant believe I'm thinking if buying another Sony camera.

More than one test would be great to know.
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Old December 20th, 2013, 03:05 PM   #216
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so it's confirmed that these are actually brand new, i just got mine and even called just to ask them about it, lady claimed since they ran out of open box, they sent me a new one instead. invoice even shows new SKU. similar reports from others as well on this deal. if you were waiting for an RX10 on sale, i doubt we'll see this low for a long while:

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Old December 20th, 2013, 03:17 PM   #217
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I ordered my RX10 yesterday and apparently a $300 rebate just showed up in the dealer system, even though it hasn't been "announced" yet. Perhaps the "torn" open box deal is how adorama is "not" advertising it.

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Old December 20th, 2013, 03:27 PM   #218
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interesting! what retailer was that?
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 09:28 PM   #219
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Shot some hand held wide with image stabilization turned on:


Did a rambling voice over about features / benefits.
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Old December 22nd, 2013, 11:34 PM   #220
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This looks like it is set up for control of the camera Shooting Grip with Mini Tripod - Action Cam Accessories Sony Store - Sony CA

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Old December 23rd, 2013, 12:26 AM   #221
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Shot some hand held wide with image stabilization turned on:
Thanks for that Phil; the active stabilization works quite well.

I have a question; why did you choose 24p rather than 60p for that kind of shoot. The stutter was too pronounced and annoying, I thought, especially when you panned as you did, a lot. Kind of defeats the purpose of active stabilization I would have thought.

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Old December 23rd, 2013, 02:55 AM   #222
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This looks like it is set up for control of the camera Shooting Grip with Mini Tripod - Action Cam Accessories Sony Store - Sony CA

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I have the D plug version of this which was made for the CX cams. It works, but unless Sony has used stronger materials for the multi version it has a lot of flex, it only has 4 set clicks for angle and as this was designed for flat based handycams with the weight towards the back of the bracket the RX10 topples if you set it flat to use as a tripod.
You may find it usefull only for hand holding 'steadycam' shots

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Old January 13th, 2014, 08:56 AM   #223
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In the market for this cam...anyone knows of an open box, etc., please post or message me! Thanks!
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Old January 27th, 2014, 06:32 AM   #224
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Do any of you have any wedding footage shot with this camera posted online? Most of the demos I have seen online have been of outdoor scenery and not really concentrated on people. I would love to see some professionally shot indoor wedding footage from the camera so I could gauge how much better it is than my Sony EX1.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 07:27 PM   #225
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I have some rx10 footage from the last wedding I did last year (end december) and will start editing it in a week, if you want I can share some footage through a password protected link?
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