RX10, a few questions?

Noa Put · July 26th, 2015, 03:21 AM

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I'm going to disagree on the zoom, 'normal' is dead slow and 'faster' for sure is a little faster.

This is getting a bit confusing, Cliff says the speed is the same but if I understand you right if you shoot video, there are 2 zoomspeeds available WHILE shooting video?

Paul Rickford · July 26th, 2015, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Noa Put

This is getting a bit confusing, Cliff says the speed is the same but if I understand you right if you shoot video, there are 2 zoomspeeds available WHILE shooting video?

Yes two speeds while shooting video

Noa Put · July 26th, 2015, 09:19 AM

Ok thx, it's good to get accurate info.

Cliff Totten · July 26th, 2015, 03:39 PM

He's right. There is a setting for "fast" and "normal" in the camera menu

On "normal" you have one fixed speed when recording and a clunky fast speed when not recording.

On "fast" you have this clunky fast speed and and the same slow speed that "normal" has DURING recording.

I think the only real speed that anybody can use is the "normal" speed. Of the two speeds, it's the only smooth one.

If you change it into "fast", that speed "clunks" forward and back. It also "vibrates" at it "lurches" forward. It's really pretty ugly looking on video. I doubt anybody would want to use it if they saw it.

But yeah, in "normal" mode, you get the one slow (usable) speed and it feels the same to me as my original RX10

Noa Put · July 27th, 2015, 01:18 AM

How much time does it take for the fast zoom to zoom from wide to tele while recording? My rx10 takes 13 seconds to go from 24 to 200mm while recording and it takes around 3 seconds for that same action when it's not recording.

Zoom for me is only for reframing purpose, it's very rare I use a zoom in post, only the rx10 forces me to use zooms in post because if I"m shooting something at the tele end of the lens and something happens in the room and I need to capture that I"m pulling that zoom lever like crazy pointing at the action and waiting 13 seconds before I"m fully wide...

Cliff Totten · July 27th, 2015, 09:36 AM

Just did a quick test:

Menu setting: "Normal"....

On "pause" zoom in = 3.5 seconds.
While recording zoom in = 11,5 - 12.0 seconds

Menu setting: "Fast"....

On "pause" zoom in = 2.5 seconds
#1 While recording zoom in = 11.0 - 12.0 seconds
#2 While recording zoom in = 2.5 seconds

Again this "fast" setting is really ugly recorded on video. It's really only used for framing the shot. It's so "clunky" and "sticky" in it's motion.

Noa Put · July 27th, 2015, 11:21 AM

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Menu setting: "Fast"....

On "pause" zoom in = 2.5 seconds
#1 While recording zoom in = 11.0 - 12.0 seconds
#2 While recording zoom in = 2.5 seconds

Not sure if I understand it right, what's the difference between #1 and #2 for the fast setting?

Cliff Totten · July 27th, 2015, 01:27 PM

When you change the camera into the "fast" setting. You are now given the "smooth" #1 slow zoom AND this clunky ugly "fast" #2 zoom. The zoom rocker will go from speed 1 and "switch" into speed 2.

Noa Put · July 28th, 2015, 12:59 AM

How does that exactly work in the fast setting, is the speed controll based on how much you pull the zoomlever? Or does the camera start with a slow zoom and switch to a fast zoom? If that is the case, how long does it zoom slow before it switches to fast?

Dave Blackhurst · July 28th, 2015, 03:09 AM

The zoom lever should have two "positions", if it's like most sonys... it's a two stage switch mechanism on all the ones I've dealt with. Sony of course disabled the faster setting in video mode on prior cams - sounds like they basically have re-enabled it for 'crash zoom' if you hit the lever hard? And you'd still be able to gently trigger the "slow" zoom?

Peter Rush · July 28th, 2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon Denny

It's a great camera. I have been using the RX10 for a while now and really fits in with my current gear and workflow.

Video is great and the stills are great also. Image on the video side gets a bit noisy at ISO 3500 and over but hey… at that price it will do.

In fact my new go to kit is a Sony RX10 and Sony A7s. These fit into a backpack and I'm good to go.

Simon can you provide a link to that little movcam cage? Can you still get to all the controls easily?

Simon Denny · July 28th, 2015, 01:07 PM

Hi Peter,

The Movcam I have on the Sony A7s and purchased this through B&H.
B&H # MOMCSTHSA7S MFR # MOV-303-2201

The RX10 I use as is with no cage.

Cheers

Simon Denny · July 28th, 2015, 01:22 PM

I forgot to mention that the cage is excellent for the A7s which really helps with hand holding and stability also accessing controls on the A7s is easy, one just needs to position your hands and fingers and your good to go.

Peter Rush · July 29th, 2015, 09:36 AM

Looks good but had a closer look and won't accommodate my battery grip - sigh!

July 26th, 2015, 09:19 AM	#18
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: RX10, a few questions? Ok thx, it's good to get accurate info.

July 26th, 2015, 03:39 PM	#19
Cliff Totten Trustee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197	Re: RX10, a few questions? He's right. There is a setting for "fast" and "normal" in the camera menu On "normal" you have one fixed speed when recording and a clunky fast speed when not recording. On "fast" you have this clunky fast speed and and the same slow speed that "normal" has DURING recording. I think the only real speed that anybody can use is the "normal" speed. Of the two speeds, it's the only smooth one. If you change it into "fast", that speed "clunks" forward and back. It also "vibrates" at it "lurches" forward. It's really pretty ugly looking on video. I doubt anybody would want to use it if they saw it. But yeah, in "normal" mode, you get the one slow (usable) speed and it feels the same to me as my original RX10 Last edited by Cliff Totten; July 26th, 2015 at 04:41 PM.

July 27th, 2015, 01:18 AM	#20
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: RX10, a few questions? How much time does it take for the fast zoom to zoom from wide to tele while recording? My rx10 takes 13 seconds to go from 24 to 200mm while recording and it takes around 3 seconds for that same action when it's not recording. Zoom for me is only for reframing purpose, it's very rare I use a zoom in post, only the rx10 forces me to use zooms in post because if I"m shooting something at the tele end of the lens and something happens in the room and I need to capture that I"m pulling that zoom lever like crazy pointing at the action and waiting 13 seconds before I"m fully wide...

July 27th, 2015, 09:36 AM	#21
Cliff Totten Trustee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197	Re: RX10, a few questions? Just did a quick test: Menu setting: "Normal".... On "pause" zoom in = 3.5 seconds. While recording zoom in = 11,5 - 12.0 seconds Menu setting: "Fast".... On "pause" zoom in = 2.5 seconds #1 While recording zoom in = 11.0 - 12.0 seconds #2 While recording zoom in = 2.5 seconds Again this "fast" setting is really ugly recorded on video. It's really only used for framing the shot. It's so "clunky" and "sticky" in it's motion.

July 27th, 2015, 01:27 PM	#23
Cliff Totten Trustee Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 1,197	Re: RX10, a few questions? When you change the camera into the "fast" setting. You are now given the "smooth" #1 slow zoom AND this clunky ugly "fast" #2 zoom. The zoom rocker will go from speed 1 and "switch" into speed 2. Last edited by Cliff Totten; July 27th, 2015 at 06:10 PM.

July 28th, 2015, 12:59 AM	#24
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: RX10, a few questions? How does that exactly work in the fast setting, is the speed controll based on how much you pull the zoomlever? Or does the camera start with a slow zoom and switch to a fast zoom? If that is the case, how long does it zoom slow before it switches to fast?

July 28th, 2015, 03:09 AM	#25
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Re: RX10, a few questions? The zoom lever should have two "positions", if it's like most sonys... it's a two stage switch mechanism on all the ones I've dealt with. Sony of course disabled the faster setting in video mode on prior cams - sounds like they basically have re-enabled it for 'crash zoom' if you hit the lever hard? And you'd still be able to gently trigger the "slow" zoom?

July 28th, 2015, 01:07 PM	#27
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Re: RX10, a few questions? Hi Peter, The Movcam I have on the Sony A7s and purchased this through B&H. B&H # MOMCSTHSA7S MFR # MOV-303-2201 The RX10 I use as is with no cage. Cheers

July 28th, 2015, 01:22 PM	#28
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Re: RX10, a few questions? I forgot to mention that the cage is excellent for the A7s which really helps with hand holding and stability also accessing controls on the A7s is easy, one just needs to position your hands and fingers and your good to go.

July 29th, 2015, 09:36 AM	#29
Peter Rush Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: UK/Yorkshire Posts: 2,069	Re: RX10, a few questions? Looks good but had a closer look and won't accommodate my battery grip - sigh!