PD150 Questions

Boyd Ostroff · September 16th, 2003, 07:29 PM

Yes, or at least that's what I do. I like the way 25% speed looks for some things as well. Am working on a clip with a woman in a long dress blowing in the wind as she walks down the beach. The dress and waves look nice at this speed. Caveat: I use Final Cut Pro on the Mac.

Sorry, I don't work with MPEG2 or DVD's.... someday I'll have to catch up with the rest of the world! I'm working strictly with DV and deinterlacing for projection on a large screen.

Lester DeLeon · September 16th, 2003, 08:43 PM

Thanks for the advice.

I just tried it with a video clip of my daughter and it looks good at 25%, I however dont think I have frame blending...just de-interlace, which I dont think is the same thing.

What kind of wide angle lens do you use ???...is 0.7x fine ??..and what do I expect to pay for it ??..is more expensive better ??

As for DVD authoring...this to me is the easiest of all aspects of videography.

If youre interested, here is my website
www.CreativeDigitalStudio.com

Me and two other fellow mechanical engineers started about 8 months ago. We had to learn every single aspect from scratch. We did our own web page, we do our own director & flash programming, editing and all. We didn't mean to do start doing full length classic videography, but the money to be made is out there, and we started getting requests. The interactive CD-ROM (VideoTreasures) that we do is something that, as far as we know, has never been done before. And we still have our full time day jobs....for now...

Don Bloom · September 16th, 2003, 09:19 PM

I use Vegas for editing and my method of slo mo' is different than discussed here so I'll stay away from that but I will tell you that I have both a Century Optics WA and a Kenko PRO WA. (I seem to have 2 different of most everything:) Both are .65 but I'm sure a .7 will work just fine. I actually use the Kekno PRO more than the Century for 2 reasons. 1) the Kenko PRO has filter threads (82mm) and the Century does not which would mean a matte box with filter holder and frankly thats pretty heavy and to me awkward to be running around at a wedding reception. 2ndly IF something happened to my lens (drop, scratch whatever, the Kenko PRO is less money than the Century Optics. BTW in my opinion only, the quality of the image is only nominally (how do you like that big word;-) better than the Kenko PRO. Anyway that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
Don

Boyd Ostroff · September 17th, 2003, 03:40 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Lester DeLeon : I however dont think I have frame blending...just de-interlace, which I dont think is the same thing. -->>>

I don't remember if you said what NLE software you're using? If it's on the PC then you might want to post the question to the PC forum as I imagine techniques could vary with the software.

Frame blending isn't the same as deinterlacing. When you slow down a clip frame blending creates additional frames from the previous and next existing frames. It uses the two fields of your interlaced (60i) video to do this somehow. That's why you don't want to deinterlace before slowing down the footage. Deinterlacing combines the two fields so you would only have 30 to work with each second instead of 60. This feature may not exist on some of the more basic software packages.

Kevin Lee · September 26th, 2003, 10:18 PM

1. Any one here use a Follow Focus unit on the PD150?
I believe there are 2 in the market?

2. Pictures of your pride. Anyone have pictures online of their proud pd150 rig setup?

Mike Rehmus · September 27th, 2003, 10:12 AM

I know what follow focus is for still cameras and pro cameras. How does follow focus work on a PD150 and can you direct me to a Web site?

Kevin Lee · September 27th, 2003, 02:12 PM

Well. I've never used one but i know of these 3.

1) http://www.centuryoptics.com/products/prodv/dvx100/Manual_Focus/manual_focus.htm
(This one is for the Dvx100)

and

2)
http://www.cavision.com/follow_focusing.htm

oh. and this one too (Cinetech)... right on dvinfo.net...
3)
http://www.dvinfo.net/sony/images/images2.php

any info/comments?

Kevin Kirchner · October 1st, 2003, 11:58 AM

Does anyone have any info about a PD170 ?

I rented a 150 last weekend and with touches of their respective buttons I was a able to change shutter speed, iris, and gain without wading thru menus?
Kevin Kirchner

Mike Rehmus · October 1st, 2003, 01:50 PM

Welcome.

It is only a PAL camcorder at this time and information, such as it is, is located mostly on European Web sites. Read some of the threads on this forum to see where those are located.

Hakki Goceoglu · October 24th, 2003, 09:47 AM

Hi folks,

Is there a third-party accessory with a sturdy firewire connector (like the xlr connectors at the top) for the PD150? My intention is to connect the handheld operated camera to a remote hard disk recorder, and tghe built in 4 pin connector is by no means suitable for that.

Thanks in advance.

Nathan Gifford · October 24th, 2003, 12:14 PM

I believe Firestore has all of that with their system.

Mike Rehmus · October 26th, 2003, 11:21 PM

No external device is going to solve the problem of the built-in connector unless you permanently affix something to the camera in some manner.

Hakki Goceoglu · October 27th, 2003, 07:27 AM

this is exactly what i am looking for, something lke the xlr connectors at the top, attached to the firewire via a right angle connector, and preferably a metal cover covering the firewire cable and the connector. i will have something custom built if one does not exist

Dave Largent · October 28th, 2003, 08:08 AM

For December delivery. Includes wide angle lens! Taking down- payments of $660 *now*! Any one had any dealings with Biz-Max?

Chris Hurd · October 28th, 2003, 08:16 AM

Dave

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September 16th, 2003, 08:43 PM	#107
Lester DeLeon Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Melville, NY Posts: 28	Slow Motion Thanks for the advice. I just tried it with a video clip of my daughter and it looks good at 25%, I however dont think I have frame blending...just de-interlace, which I dont think is the same thing. What kind of wide angle lens do you use ???...is 0.7x fine ??..and what do I expect to pay for it ??..is more expensive better ?? As for DVD authoring...this to me is the easiest of all aspects of videography. If youre interested, here is my website www.CreativeDigitalStudio.com Me and two other fellow mechanical engineers started about 8 months ago. We had to learn every single aspect from scratch. We did our own web page, we do our own director & flash programming, editing and all. We didn't mean to do start doing full length classic videography, but the money to be made is out there, and we started getting requests. The interactive CD-ROM (VideoTreasures) that we do is something that, as far as we know, has never been done before. And we still have our full time day jobs....for now...

September 17th, 2003, 03:40 PM	#109
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Re: Slow Motion <<<-- Originally posted by Lester DeLeon : I however dont think I have frame blending...just de-interlace, which I dont think is the same thing. -->>> I don't remember if you said what NLE software you're using? If it's on the PC then you might want to post the question to the PC forum as I imagine techniques could vary with the software. Frame blending isn't the same as deinterlacing. When you slow down a clip frame blending creates additional frames from the previous and next existing frames. It uses the two fields of your interlaced (60i) video to do this somehow. That's why you don't want to deinterlace before slowing down the footage. Deinterlacing combines the two fields so you would only have 30 to work with each second instead of 60. This feature may not exist on some of the more basic software packages.

September 26th, 2003, 10:18 PM	#110
Kevin Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 224	Follow Focus unit on the PD150? 1. Any one here use a Follow Focus unit on the PD150? I believe there are 2 in the market? 2. Pictures of your pride. Anyone have pictures online of their proud pd150 rig setup?

September 27th, 2003, 10:12 AM	#111
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	I know what follow focus is for still cameras and pro cameras. How does follow focus work on a PD150 and can you direct me to a Web site? __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

October 1st, 2003, 11:58 AM	#113
Kevin Kirchner New Boot Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 10	Pd150 Does anyone have any info about a PD170 ? I rented a 150 last weekend and with touches of their respective buttons I was a able to change shutter speed, iris, and gain without wading thru menus? Kevin Kirchner

September 16th, 2003, 07:29 PM	#106
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Yes, or at least that's what I do. I like the way 25% speed looks for some things as well. Am working on a clip with a woman in a long dress blowing in the wind as she walks down the beach. The dress and waves look nice at this speed. Caveat: I use Final Cut Pro on the Mac. Sorry, I don't work with MPEG2 or DVD's.... someday I'll have to catch up with the rest of the world! I'm working strictly with DV and deinterlacing for projection on a large screen.

September 16th, 2003, 09:19 PM	#108
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	I use Vegas for editing and my method of slo mo' is different than discussed here so I'll stay away from that but I will tell you that I have both a Century Optics WA and a Kenko PRO WA. (I seem to have 2 different of most everything:) Both are .65 but I'm sure a .7 will work just fine. I actually use the Kekno PRO more than the Century for 2 reasons. 1) the Kenko PRO has filter threads (82mm) and the Century does not which would mean a matte box with filter holder and frankly thats pretty heavy and to me awkward to be running around at a wedding reception. 2ndly IF something happened to my lens (drop, scratch whatever, the Kenko PRO is less money than the Century Optics. BTW in my opinion only, the quality of the image is only nominally (how do you like that big word;-) better than the Kenko PRO. Anyway that's my story and I'm stickin' to it! Don

September 27th, 2003, 02:12 PM	#112
Kevin Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 224	Well. I've never used one but i know of these 3. 1) http://www.centuryoptics.com/products/prodv/dvx100/Manual_Focus/manual_focus.htm (This one is for the Dvx100) and 2) http://www.cavision.com/follow_focusing.htm oh. and this one too (Cinetech)... right on dvinfo.net... 3) http://www.dvinfo.net/sony/images/images2.php any info/comments?

October 1st, 2003, 01:50 PM	#114
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Welcome. It is only a PAL camcorder at this time and information, such as it is, is located mostly on European Web sites. Read some of the threads on this forum to see where those are located. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

October 24th, 2003, 09:47 AM	#115
Hakki Goceoglu New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: istanbul turkey Posts: 7	Sturdy firewire connector for PD150 Hi folks, Is there a third-party accessory with a sturdy firewire connector (like the xlr connectors at the top) for the PD150? My intention is to connect the handheld operated camera to a remote hard disk recorder, and tghe built in 4 pin connector is by no means suitable for that. Thanks in advance.

October 24th, 2003, 12:14 PM	#116
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	I believe Firestore has all of that with their system. __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

October 26th, 2003, 11:21 PM	#117
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	No external device is going to solve the problem of the built-in connector unless you permanently affix something to the camera in some manner. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

October 27th, 2003, 07:27 AM	#118
Hakki Goceoglu New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: istanbul turkey Posts: 7	this is exactly what i am looking for, something lke the xlr connectors at the top, attached to the firewire via a right angle connector, and preferably a metal cover covering the firewire cable and the connector. i will have something custom built if one does not exist

October 28th, 2003, 08:08 AM	#119
Dave Largent Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,483	PD170 NTSC Offered For $50 More Than PD150 ... For December delivery. Includes wide angle lens! Taking down- payments of $660 now! Any one had any dealings with Biz-Max?

October 28th, 2003, 08:16 AM	#120
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Dave Strongly suggest you consider dealing only with our authorized DV Info Net Sponsors (as listed on this page). B&H is a full-line Sony dealer and their prices are closer to the real world. Check out B&H at this link. When you buy from one of our authorized DV Info Net sponsors, not only are you assured the best possible price and superb customer service, but you're also giving back a little to this community. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!