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Mark Goodsell October 12th, 2003 08:58 PM

VX2100 pricing - my thoughts...
 
[I posted this similar on another thread, but I wanted to create dialog about this]

People keep saying the price of the VX2100 is going to be expensive when it comes out. We don't know yet, and maybe the price will be high initially, but its hard to imagine Sony will be able to keep the price high for long considering the price of the GL2, PDX10, DVC80 (which some could argue is a better cam) and JVC 300U. More than anything, the updates should give people a faint reason NOT to buy one of the aforementioned cams.

Say Sony raises the price to $2800 ($400 higher than now). That means one would be only a few hundred from buying a DVX100, $400 more than the DVC80, $850 more than the GL2 (with rebate), and about $150 from a PD150 (there will surely be plenty out there for a while). I don't see how they would sell ANY VX2100's. I don't know about you guys, but at that price I'd move up to a DVX100 or get the DVC80 (if I didn't want to spend as much), or find a current PD150 or VX2000. When I bought my cam, I had a really difficult time buying the VX2000 over the GL2, and, at that time, JVC and Panasonic didn't have their cams out, there wasn't a PDX10, and Canon wasn't offering a rebate on the GL2. I guarantee if I were buying a new cam today, I could find lots of reasons to buy any of the other cams. VX2100 doesn't offer enough features to justify a higher cost than the VX2000.

Mark G


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Paul Ogle October 26th, 2003 12:46 PM

Mark, do you know where I might find VX2100 specs?

Paul

Graham Bernard October 26th, 2003 01:28 PM

This any good . . .

http://www.abcdv.com/article/articleview/161/1/53/

Grazie

Jun Galinato October 26th, 2003 02:06 PM

By the time the VX2100 is available in the US, VX2000 will be discontinued like the VX1000 discontinued when VX2000 is out. You can maybe buy one, but that will be an old stock.

Paul Ogle October 27th, 2003 02:57 PM

Thanks Graham!

Brian Broz October 30th, 2003 03:19 AM

VX2100 is the exact same price (...here)
 
FYI
In Canada the price for the VX2100 is the same as the VX2000 (was). Confirmed pricing last week. We can't wait!

Dave Largent October 30th, 2003 10:26 AM

Where did you hear that news, Brian? Any mention of an included wide angle lens, as with the PD170? And when you say
same price, are you referring to manufacturers suggested retail
or actual street price?

Brian Broz October 30th, 2003 12:15 PM

No pricing changes here for the VX2100. no Mention yet on specifics...only the model number.

Brian

Bryan Beasleigh October 30th, 2003 02:02 PM

Brian works for a full service dealer in a suberb of Vancouver BC (Canada) Lorne Lapham Sales and Rentals. The store isn't big but it's packed with treasures. They have a large stock of lighting and accessory gear. (Sony, Panny,manfrotto, Lowel , Cavision, etc.) they're aimed at the prosummer/professional market. Nice people! Most or all of the employees are users and not just sales people.

Gerald Galloway October 30th, 2003 03:54 PM

so WHEN can someone buy an ntsc vx2100 or pd170 ? from canada OR the US ? Do you have an approximate date that your store or any others will actually have them in stock ?? is the vx2100 available prior to the pd170, the former being sold in Dec. and the latter sometime in the spring ?

Gerry

Basem Elsokary November 4th, 2003 12:01 PM

will the vx2100 have a manual gain and shutter controls like the pd150? as far as I know, they are combined for the vx2000 (or something like that), just wondering if they made the manual controls a bit more like the pd150, or if they will essentially be the same...

I would love to get a vx2100 as a second camera, but need to be able to manually control gain and shutter speed...

Lou Bruno November 5th, 2003 07:36 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Basem Elsokary : will the vx2100 have a manual gain and shutter controls like the pd150? as far as I know, they are combined for the vx2000 (or something like that), just wondering if they made the manual controls a bit more like the pd150, or if they will essentially be the same...

I would love to get a vx2100 as a second camera, but need to be able to manually control gain and shutter speed... -->>>


NO-same exposure like the VX2000. The PD170 will have more iris increments.

Boyd Ostroff November 5th, 2003 08:09 PM

The VX-2000 does have separate controls for shutter speed and iris, but there's a caveat. If you set the iris manually, then change the shutter speed, the camera resets the iris where it chooses, even in manual mode. The iris will then remain at this new setting until manually changed.

However if you choose your shutter speed FIRST, then you may set the iris wherever you like. As long as you leave the shutter speed alone you can take full manual control of the iris.

So you can't vary the shutter speed and keep the iris locked at a setting, but you can vary the iris and keep the shutter speed locked. From what I'm told this differs from the PD-150, but I only have a VX-2000 so I can't say for sure. FWIW, the PDX-10 behaves exactly like the VX-2000 in this regard.

Chris Mueller November 10th, 2003 07:18 PM

Does anyone know if the PD150 acts differently? (In response to Boyd)

Mike Rehmus November 11th, 2003 08:20 PM

Everything in the PD150 can be made to operate independently.


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