PD170 Line noise when no mic connected at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony HDV and DV Camera Systems > Sony VX2100 / PD170 / PDX10 Companion

Sony VX2100 / PD170 / PDX10 Companion
Topics also include Sony's TRV950, VX2000, PD150 & DSR250 family.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 17th, 2009, 03:31 PM   #1
New Boot
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: El Cerito, CA
Posts: 10
PD170 Line noise when no mic connected

I was dealing with some audio problems with my pd170. I noticed that when there is no mic connected to either inputs and I turn up the levels to 100%, that I hear line noise.

you can see the wave form here.
pd170 audio problem wave form

when there is no Mic connected to input 1 or input 2,

Levels turned up above 60%
and the levels are turned up high, above 60 or 70%,
then there is a background noise in the ear phones and on the tape audio.
first part wave from below is level up high, about 100%,
someone told me there is always pre amp noise, but is this normal?

with level around 50%
I don't hear the line noise
but if I tape and import the clip, then up the gain 20 db or so, I see the line noise.
in both cases you can see background noise.
Below is is the wave form expanded way up.

on the line is a periodic brrrrrrrrrttt ------ brrrrrrrrrttt - sound

I saw there was old problem with line noise on pd170 when opening the flipout lcd, but this audio noise happens all the time.

Problem 2 - Sennheiser K6 and ME 64
the other problem I have is with a Sennheiser K6 and ME 64
there's a loud hum. when I replace the k6 modual with another one it goes away.

thanks for any help on this.


edwin
Edwin Rutsch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 18th, 2009, 06:46 AM   #2
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Monroe, NY
Posts: 686
If this camera was serviced, I would suspect a short in the handle somewhere.

If not, it may be a problem with the microphone noise reduction feature.

John.
John Peterson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 18th, 2009, 06:56 PM   #3
New Boot
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: El Cerito, CA
Posts: 10
the camera came with that defect.

I checked with a friend that has the pd150 and you can hear the background white noise, but there is no Brrrrrrrrrt sound.

Then, I just checked when I bought the pd170. it was
03/21/2005

I then pulled out a tape from a couple months after that, and can you believe it. It had the same sound. It wasn't as bad, it is more even in the wave form hidden in the background noise.. Now it has those higher plateaus.

So it looks to me like the camera came with that defect. I just never noticed it since it's hidden in the back ground and I never upped the db levels that much. It's just gotten worse over time.

Last edited by Edwin Rutsch; May 18th, 2009 at 06:57 PM. Reason: update spelling
Edwin Rutsch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 19th, 2009, 08:32 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Monroe, NY
Posts: 686
I have to admit, the wave form and the brrrrrrrrrttt ------ brrrrrrrrrttt - sound you describe reminds me an awful lot of the noise from cell phone interference as it looks for a signal.

Any chance of that?

Also, can you turn off the mic noise reduction?

John
John Peterson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 22nd, 2009, 11:17 AM   #5
New Boot
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: El Cerito, CA
Posts: 10
Cell and Noise reduction

john

I don't think it's the cell phone.. the sound is consistent and goes back to 2005.

I did try noise reduction on and off with no difference.

since the camera seems to have come with this, I wonder that no one else has this problem.. Back then, 2005 - there was a line noise problem that people wrote about when the LCD window was open.. I wonder if there is some relationship to that problem?

Edwin
Edwin Rutsch is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Sony XAVC / XDCAM / NXCAM / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Sony HDV and DV Camera Systems > Sony VX2100 / PD170 / PDX10 Companion

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:58 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network