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-   -   I find the PD-170 picture a bit soft (https://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-vx2100-pd170-pdx10-companion/24095-i-find-pd-170-picture-bit-soft.html)

Rob Easler April 5th, 2004 07:12 AM

I find the PD-170 picture a bit soft
 
As a new owner of a 170 I find the picture of the Sony appears a bit soft as compared to my GL2 or DVC80. Of course the low light is much better and it is a cleaner picture but it's not as crisp or sharp. I haven't found any posts mentioning this observation. Does anyone else feel this way, or am I nuts? I have dialed up the sharpness control in the cam a couple notches per Lou Bruno's suggestion.


Mike Rehmus April 5th, 2004 12:04 PM

I find it to be good as-is. But I'm not trying to match it to anything other than Sony cameras.

Bill Pryor April 5th, 2004 01:53 PM

It should be very definitely sharper than your GL2. When I got a DSR250 (about 3 years or so ago), it was also too soft right out of the box. Go into the menu and you can adjust that. I think I took it over to about 75%. You don't want to go too far, or you'll start getting some edginess.
You might also want to check out the lens and try to determine if maybe there is a back focus problem. If you zoom into something tight and it's sharp, then you zoom back to a wide shot and it's soft, then there is probably a back focus issue and you'll have to send the camera in for service. This was a problem on early VX1000s, and I've seen it on XL1's, but not on a 150. However, it can happen.

Mathew Evan April 5th, 2004 02:00 PM

Depends on what you're shooting. For weddings softer is better. Typically sharpening the picture is bad in any case because it adds artificial edges. In fact I have my DVX100 knocked down to -3 in detail. Gives a nice romantic feel.

Rob Easler April 5th, 2004 03:17 PM

I don't know Bill. I compared a friends 150 and it too seemed to me to be a softer picture, compared to the other cams, cleaner for sure but softer. I think that may be just the way they are. Got a friend who also just got a 170 so I'll compare them. I don't want to be a freak with the issue micro managing it but I can see a difference. Thanks for your thoughts so far guys. This forum is great. People are generally pretty well mannered.

Tom Hardwick April 6th, 2004 08:30 AM

The Sony lens is - like every other lens made - aperture critical. If you want the sharpest pictures possible then don't stop down below f5.6 - use the ND filters to ensure this is so. Better yet shoot at f4. But avoid f11 - diffraction effects (especially at wide-angle) really soften the picture down there.

tom.

Lou Bruno April 6th, 2004 02:18 PM

Re: I find the PD-170 picture a bit soft
 
Rob-had a customer with the same problem last week.

Go into Custom Pre-set.

Raise detail 75%-will NOT produce sharp edges like the analog days.

Click color Saturation one click to the left.

Always manually WB the camera.

You will see a difference.


<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Easler : As a new owner of a 170 I find the picture of the Sony appears a bit soft as compared to my GL2 or DVC80. Of course the low light is much better and it is a cleaner picture but it's not as crisp or sharp. I haven't found any posts mentioning this observation. Does anyone else feel this way, or am I nuts? I have dialed up the sharpness control in the cam a couple notches per Lou Bruno's suggestion. -->>>


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