VX9000 / DSR200 / DSR250 various topics

Bill Pryor · April 17th, 2003, 09:56 AM

Using DVCAM tape will not give you any better quality. The DVCAM tape stock may be a little better, but it would not affect quality of the recording. There is no reason to use the memory chip stock unless you have a Sony editing system that can use the feature. I use Sony DVCAM tape but not the memory chip tapes. In your case it's probably best to use a good quality DV tape stock. Pick one brand and stick with it because switching brands can sometimes cause head clog in some cameras.

Peter Kulka · April 17th, 2003, 10:06 AM

Thanks so much to Bill Pryor for excellent explanation.

You saved me a lot of money on tapes, becouse when I asked Sony Representative, they recommendet the moust expensive one and of course with chip.

Do you hawe any recommendation for brand and supplier of this tapes?

Also do you know have many times I can record and rerecord one tape. What should I loking for to see that tape is getting old.

Thanks

Jeff Donald · April 17th, 2003, 10:07 AM

I'm wondering how available full size DV tapes are in Slovakia? What is the cost of full size vs. mini DV in Slovakia?

Peter Kulka · April 17th, 2003, 10:13 AM

I have no idea, because i living in California and this camcorder is for my brother. I will call him today and check.
I should have answer in 24 hours.
Look for my post.

Bill Pryor · April 17th, 2003, 10:14 AM

If you record too many times on a tape, eventually you will see dropouts that will appear on screen. If you take care of the tapes they last longer. Don't leave them laying around outside their cases, always rewind to the head after editing with them, don't let them get too hot or too cold, don't change tapes in dirty environments, etc.

Any of the sales weasels always want to sell you the most expensive tape stock. I use top quality stock, but the memory chip is a waste of money. Sony is good and Fuji is equal to it in my opinion. Those are the only two I've ever used. You might be better off to shoot the miniDV tapes even though the camera can use big ones, because any DV tape deck will use the mini tapes, but some will not accept the big ones.

Peter Kulka · April 17th, 2003, 10:21 AM

Thanks for advise.
As I understand VX9000 camcorder will accept only full size DV tape. Because my brother do not have any DV deck, I do not see any problem with it. He will use camcorder as his player (deck).

Garret Ambrosio · April 17th, 2003, 02:03 PM

I have a VX9000 and yes it will accept the Full DVCAM tapes, provided it is recorded in DV. It will also take the blank tapes but it will record footage in DV. Nice Camera, great backup to my VX2000. Though it doesn't have the low light capabilities of the VX2000, it is much like the VX1000. I think you should shop around because two grand seems a bit much for it.

John Jay · April 17th, 2003, 02:09 PM

also vx9000 has only DVOUT but a gizmo can be obtained to allow DVIN

Peter Kulka · April 17th, 2003, 02:20 PM

According speciffication for VX9000 PAL there is DV in and out.

John Jay · April 17th, 2003, 02:32 PM

a friend in the UK has a vx9000e and it is definately DVOUT only , he requires a widget to make it DVIN

maybe its different elsewhere

http://www.shoppersworld.co.uk/templated/midlands/prestons/product.asp?s=80&d=208&p=11831&c=9&s1=68&s2=0&s3=0

Jeff Donald · April 17th, 2003, 03:59 PM

The DV in is disabled to prevent copying tapes. This is an internal software setting in a hidden menu (in most cases). It is usually only disabled in cameras intended for the European markets. If there is a krack, or hidden menu, you can usually find it on the net, if you search a little.

Johnnie Behiri · April 18th, 2003, 11:45 AM

Hi Peter

I have the VX 9000 for the last 5 years.
It is a great camera (has the same ccd block as the vx1000),and many of the things i did with it believe it or not were broadcast even on the BBC.

The great advantage of using a DVCAM cassette is that a 3 hours DVCAM will become a 4.5 hours DV tape. (because of the different speed of DV and DVCAM).
Any way the cassette is the same just that a DVCAM will come in a better stronger case.

My camera is for sale (2000$) and it doe's have an original DV in/out (it's original market was not Europe where a DV in camera had a higher tax).
This feature is a must for him if he would like to edit his footage in digital and save some money in the beginning not buying a DV deck.

I live in Vienna so the camera can be delivered easy to your brother in Slovakia.
In any case i will be more then happy to send your brother DV or DVCAM cassettes in-case he will find it hard to get them.

Thanks
Johnnie

Peter Kulka · April 18th, 2003, 11:53 AM

Thanks Johnnie Behiri for very good news. Please check your e-mail.
Peter

John Jay · April 19th, 2003, 12:15 PM

manual here

http://194.7.100.75/manuals/3858185231.pdf

Peter Kulka · April 19th, 2003, 01:05 PM

Thanks John Jay for link to manual, but I do not speak German.
Do anyboby have link to English version of VX9000E manual?
Thanks in advance.

April 17th, 2003, 10:06 AM	#62
Peter Kulka Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 34	VX9000 PAL Thanks so much to Bill Pryor for excellent explanation. You saved me a lot of money on tapes, becouse when I asked Sony Representative, they recommendet the moust expensive one and of course with chip. Do you hawe any recommendation for brand and supplier of this tapes? Also do you know have many times I can record and rerecord one tape. What should I loking for to see that tape is getting old. Thanks

April 17th, 2003, 10:07 AM	#63
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I'm wondering how available full size DV tapes are in Slovakia? What is the cost of full size vs. mini DV in Slovakia? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 17th, 2003, 10:13 AM	#64
Peter Kulka Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 34	VX9000 PAL I have no idea, because i living in California and this camcorder is for my brother. I will call him today and check. I should have answer in 24 hours. Look for my post.

April 17th, 2003, 10:21 AM	#66
Peter Kulka Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 34	VX9000 PAL Thanks for advise. As I understand VX9000 camcorder will accept only full size DV tape. Because my brother do not have any DV deck, I do not see any problem with it. He will use camcorder as his player (deck).

April 17th, 2003, 02:03 PM	#67
Garret Ambrosio Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vallejo, CA Posts: 263	I have a VX9000 and yes it will accept the Full DVCAM tapes, provided it is recorded in DV. It will also take the blank tapes but it will record footage in DV. Nice Camera, great backup to my VX2000. Though it doesn't have the low light capabilities of the VX2000, it is much like the VX1000. I think you should shop around because two grand seems a bit much for it. __________________ "USA Today has come out with a new survey - apparently, three out of every four people make up 75% of the population." -David Letterman

April 17th, 2003, 09:56 AM	#61
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	Using DVCAM tape will not give you any better quality. The DVCAM tape stock may be a little better, but it would not affect quality of the recording. There is no reason to use the memory chip stock unless you have a Sony editing system that can use the feature. I use Sony DVCAM tape but not the memory chip tapes. In your case it's probably best to use a good quality DV tape stock. Pick one brand and stick with it because switching brands can sometimes cause head clog in some cameras.

April 17th, 2003, 10:14 AM	#65
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	If you record too many times on a tape, eventually you will see dropouts that will appear on screen. If you take care of the tapes they last longer. Don't leave them laying around outside their cases, always rewind to the head after editing with them, don't let them get too hot or too cold, don't change tapes in dirty environments, etc. Any of the sales weasels always want to sell you the most expensive tape stock. I use top quality stock, but the memory chip is a waste of money. Sony is good and Fuji is equal to it in my opinion. Those are the only two I've ever used. You might be better off to shoot the miniDV tapes even though the camera can use big ones, because any DV tape deck will use the mini tapes, but some will not accept the big ones.

April 17th, 2003, 02:09 PM	#68
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	also vx9000 has only DVOUT but a gizmo can be obtained to allow DVIN __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

April 17th, 2003, 02:20 PM	#69
Peter Kulka Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 34	VX9000 PAL According speciffication for VX9000 PAL there is DV in and out.

April 17th, 2003, 02:32 PM	#70
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	a friend in the UK has a vx9000e and it is definately DVOUT only , he requires a widget to make it DVIN maybe its different elsewhere http://www.shoppersworld.co.uk/templated/midlands/prestons/product.asp?s=80&d=208&p=11831&c=9&s1=68&s2=0&s3=0 __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

April 17th, 2003, 03:59 PM	#71
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	The DV in is disabled to prevent copying tapes. This is an internal software setting in a hidden menu (in most cases). It is usually only disabled in cameras intended for the European markets. If there is a krack, or hidden menu, you can usually find it on the net, if you search a little. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 18th, 2003, 11:45 AM	#72
Johnnie Behiri Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vienna/Austria Posts: 187	VX 9000 Hi Peter I have the VX 9000 for the last 5 years. It is a great camera (has the same ccd block as the vx1000),and many of the things i did with it believe it or not were broadcast even on the BBC. The great advantage of using a DVCAM cassette is that a 3 hours DVCAM will become a 4.5 hours DV tape. (because of the different speed of DV and DVCAM). Any way the cassette is the same just that a DVCAM will come in a better stronger case. My camera is for sale (2000$) and it doe's have an original DV in/out (it's original market was not Europe where a DV in camera had a higher tax). This feature is a must for him if he would like to edit his footage in digital and save some money in the beginning not buying a DV deck. I live in Vienna so the camera can be delivered easy to your brother in Slovakia. In any case i will be more then happy to send your brother DV or DVCAM cassettes in-case he will find it hard to get them. Thanks Johnnie __________________ http://www.johnniebehiri.com/

April 18th, 2003, 11:53 AM	#73
Peter Kulka Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 34	VX9000 PAL Thanks Johnnie Behiri for very good news. Please check your e-mail. Peter

April 19th, 2003, 12:15 PM	#74
John Jay Major Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: US & THEM Posts: 827	manual here http://194.7.100.75/manuals/3858185231.pdf __________________ John Jay Beware *PLUGGER-BYTES*

April 19th, 2003, 01:05 PM	#75
Peter Kulka Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Newark, CA Posts: 34	VX9000 PAL Thanks John Jay for link to manual, but I do not speak German. Do anyboby have link to English version of VX9000E manual? Thanks in advance.