Beware of these VX-1000, 2000, 2100 eBay auctions at DVinfo.net

Eric Skovan · August 3rd, 2005, 09:58 PM

In my quest for a Sony VX camcorder on ebay (started out looking for a cheap analog VX-3, then a moderate VX-1000, wound up with an expensive VX-2000) I came across a guy who repeatedly posts scam auctions for VX-1000s and 2000s. I first realized it was a scam because I recognized the pictures from someone else's previous auction.

I've noticed that as fast as ebay kicks him off the guy is still creating new ebay IDs and posting new auctions.

The seller always has the words FIRST BIDDER IS THE WINNER in his auction title. This in and of itself isn't allowed on ebay (the auction isn't Buy It Now). The seller always has zero feedback, his ID has usually been created that day, and the selling price is always suspiciously low ($699, $799).

James Connors · August 4th, 2005, 06:37 AM

eBay is notorious for having dozens of scam auctions involving Prosumer and Professional cameras..

A few tips to spot the fake from the real:

1. Check the sellers feedback.. not everyone with a low feedback is a scammer, but someone with good feedback is more likely to be for real. Beware someone who suddenly lists a big auction after 2 years of inactivity of selling cheap junk.. most likely a hacked account. Always follow the links of feedbacks, some people setup auctions just to boost their feedback.

2. Check the country its located in, some people will list two.. never a good sign!

3. Offers to end the auction early? Asks you to contact via a different email address? Very suss!

4. Stock photography and website descriptions of the cameras? Hmmm. Would someone selling a PD150 have so little knowledge about it they can't offer even a few words of their own? Also people selling just the camera.. most people own something to go with it.. extra batteries, filters, adapters etc.. if its been used for production, its unlikely it'll be just a camera for sale.

5. Does it look too good to be true? It probably is.

Chris Hurd · August 4th, 2005, 09:10 AM

In addition to those great tips from James, be sure to see our article "How to Not Get Scammed on Ebay" by Dylan Couper:

http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/buyersguide/ebay.php

Pat Sherman · August 17th, 2005, 08:05 AM

This message is good one to put out there.. I see these cheap cameras all the time and I am a bit leary.. I myself took a jump into a purchase a while ago, while it turned out to be perfectly fine I was sweating bullets the minute I PayPal'd the $3000.. GULP..

It was for A Sony PD-150 with all original accessories, two batteries, thermodyne hardcase, manfrotto tripod and fluid head, .65 Century Optics Wide Angle, Century Extreme Fish Eye, Century Telephoto Convertor and Century 16:9 convertor lens and professionally services and cleaned by manufacturer.

So I am thinking to myself this is a good deal, the lenses alone are worth the price. Then I started thinking oh crap too good to be true.. Man what did I just do, looking at other auctions with some or not any accessories was $2500-$3000.. So now I am really nervous..

Well good news, seller shipped next day air, fully insured and everything was exactly as described, turned out the seller actually was from a reputable independent film company and sent me a copy of the movie they shot on the PD-150.. Whew! P.S. the camera had low hours as well.. So this is truly a transaction that eBay is supposed to be about.

Back on topic, if you use paypal there is a way to get your money back.. Never pay from your bank account always use your credit card as the payment source.. If it doesn't arrive as described or not at all and the transaction was not protected by PayPal.. Not to worry, make a quick call to your visa company and they give you the money back and start a fraud investigation on your behalf against the seller.. So they recommended always use your CC when using paypal.

Of course, this can work two ways if you are the seller and someone does this too you and you ship everything that would suck.. I'm not sure what happens to the transaction once your CC reverses the charges.. I never have received any notice from paypal. But then again it was for $35 and the seller never shipped nor responded.. 3 weeks went by and it was time to take action..

August 3rd, 2005, 09:58 PM	#1
Eric Skovan Tourist Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4	Beware of these VX-1000, 2000, 2100 eBay auctions In my quest for a Sony VX camcorder on ebay (started out looking for a cheap analog VX-3, then a moderate VX-1000, wound up with an expensive VX-2000) I came across a guy who repeatedly posts scam auctions for VX-1000s and 2000s. I first realized it was a scam because I recognized the pictures from someone else's previous auction. I've noticed that as fast as ebay kicks him off the guy is still creating new ebay IDs and posting new auctions. The seller always has the words FIRST BIDDER IS THE WINNER in his auction title. This in and of itself isn't allowed on ebay (the auction isn't Buy It Now). The seller always has zero feedback, his ID has usually been created that day, and the selling price is always suspiciously low ($699, $799).

August 4th, 2005, 09:10 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	In addition to those great tips from James, be sure to see our article "How to Not Get Scammed on Ebay" by Dylan Couper: http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/buyersguide/ebay.php __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 4th, 2005, 06:37 AM	#2
James Connors Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 223	eBay is notorious for having dozens of scam auctions involving Prosumer and Professional cameras.. A few tips to spot the fake from the real: 1. Check the sellers feedback.. not everyone with a low feedback is a scammer, but someone with good feedback is more likely to be for real. Beware someone who suddenly lists a big auction after 2 years of inactivity of selling cheap junk.. most likely a hacked account. Always follow the links of feedbacks, some people setup auctions just to boost their feedback. 2. Check the country its located in, some people will list two.. never a good sign! 3. Offers to end the auction early? Asks you to contact via a different email address? Very suss! 4. Stock photography and website descriptions of the cameras? Hmmm. Would someone selling a PD150 have so little knowledge about it they can't offer even a few words of their own? Also people selling just the camera.. most people own something to go with it.. extra batteries, filters, adapters etc.. if its been used for production, its unlikely it'll be just a camera for sale. 5. Does it look too good to be true? It probably is.

August 17th, 2005, 08:05 AM	#4
Pat Sherman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DuPont, Wa Posts: 325	This message is good one to put out there.. I see these cheap cameras all the time and I am a bit leary.. I myself took a jump into a purchase a while ago, while it turned out to be perfectly fine I was sweating bullets the minute I PayPal'd the $3000.. GULP.. It was for A Sony PD-150 with all original accessories, two batteries, thermodyne hardcase, manfrotto tripod and fluid head, .65 Century Optics Wide Angle, Century Extreme Fish Eye, Century Telephoto Convertor and Century 16:9 convertor lens and professionally services and cleaned by manufacturer. So I am thinking to myself this is a good deal, the lenses alone are worth the price. Then I started thinking oh crap too good to be true.. Man what did I just do, looking at other auctions with some or not any accessories was $2500-$3000.. So now I am really nervous.. Well good news, seller shipped next day air, fully insured and everything was exactly as described, turned out the seller actually was from a reputable independent film company and sent me a copy of the movie they shot on the PD-150.. Whew! P.S. the camera had low hours as well.. So this is truly a transaction that eBay is supposed to be about. Back on topic, if you use paypal there is a way to get your money back.. Never pay from your bank account always use your credit card as the payment source.. If it doesn't arrive as described or not at all and the transaction was not protected by PayPal.. Not to worry, make a quick call to your visa company and they give you the money back and start a fraud investigation on your behalf against the seller.. So they recommended always use your CC when using paypal. Of course, this can work two ways if you are the seller and someone does this too you and you ship everything that would suck.. I'm not sure what happens to the transaction once your CC reverses the charges.. I never have received any notice from paypal. But then again it was for $35 and the seller never shipped nor responded.. 3 weeks went by and it was time to take action..