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Old October 23rd, 2012, 09:24 PM   #91
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.... this might confirm my suspicion of being switchable between FF and S35.
If it is going to be a professional lens mount such as PL there is little chance it will be FF. There is very little PL glass that will cover FF.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 04:16 AM   #92
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.... this might confirm my suspicion of being switchable between FF and S35.
I don't see how. It's very likely the s35 area will be covered by about 9.8 megapixels, if the same sensor as the fs700 is used (11.6mp) the extra are only roughly 20% more area, well short of the doubling that would be needed for FF. This is aside from any considerations of how the read mechanism would work and lens implications.

But spread around the outside edge of the active 9.8mp, that extra 20% would be what would be required to give a non-recorded viewfinding option, so, as with film, you could see such as mic booms coming into shot BEFORE they impact on the actual recorded picture.
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Old October 24th, 2012, 05:42 AM   #93
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There are too few FF lenses in PL mount, and a switchable design would only mean caviates on both modes. Plus the Sony Facebook page is called SonySuper35. So I think it's safe to assume what the sensor size is. BTW the Facebook image is now showing more.

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Old October 25th, 2012, 05:30 PM   #94
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..I know, I know, I'm just playing along with my photoshop image job.. which by the way has landed on the pages or RED recently.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #95
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F5 and F55:
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Old October 30th, 2012, 12:07 AM   #96
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Old October 30th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #97
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Looks very nice, but you're right without a price it is hard to say if this would be a gamechanger for me.
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Old October 30th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #98
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Need some photos here in this thread too:



F5


Super-sampling: Spectacular HD, 2K or 4K
4K/2K RAW recording option
The future is built in
Vast exposure latitude
Viewfinders as revolutionary as the camera
Optional shoulder rig
Modularity and versatility
Choice of recording formats
High speed shooting at up to 120 fps in 2K
High-speed SxS PRO+ media cards
Real world workflows
Incredible flexibilty: PL-mount, FZ-mount and still lenses
Sony CineAlta PL-mount prime lenses: A new generation
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Old October 30th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #99
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Does anybody have a picture of the right side of the camera? My question is, if the F5 has a zoom rocker like the F3 so I could use the Sony SCL-Z18X140 Power Zoom Lens when needed?
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Old October 30th, 2012, 12:54 AM   #100
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Does anybody have a picture of the right side of the camera? My question is, if the F5 has a zoom rocker like the F3 so I could use the Sony SCL-Z18X140 Power Zoom Lens when needed?
Yes, that power zoom lens is specifically mentioned as a lens to be used with the new cameras. It's listed in this pdf:

http://pro.sony.com/bbsccms/assets/f.../F5_Camera.pdf
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Old October 30th, 2012, 12:57 AM   #101
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Thank you Glen! Yes I've seen that in the pdf, but I wasn't sure about if this is true.
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Old October 30th, 2012, 01:51 AM   #102
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Wait! What about AUDIO input provisions? As usual, treated like a red-headed stepchild ;)
They mention XLR inputs in passing, just a few words.

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Old October 30th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #103
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What I love about the F55 is the Global Shutter. Finally...

But, what I'm concerned about for the XAVC codec is whether it supports 1080p60 in Intra-frame. If we could get both 1080p60 and Global Shutter and Intra-frame recording native 60p (not overcranked or etc without audio) this would hands down be the killer cam to own.

Unfortunately, looks like the F5 is still rolling shutter. If the tech could propagate down for global shutters, it'd only be better for everyone.
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Old October 30th, 2012, 02:30 AM   #104
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Jack I agree with you. I want also 1080p50/60 including audio. AVCHD 2.0 can do this so I hope it shouldn't be a problem for XAVC.
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Old October 30th, 2012, 02:36 AM   #105
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the 100Mbps 10bit option might be the best bet for that. If it's intra frame and 1080p60, that would be best.

AVCHD 2.0 at 28Mbps is not enough. The GH3's GOP based 50Mbps is better, but it's 4:2:0.

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Oh, OK, so Sony and Panasonic are in the same boat right now... The XAVC codec is not going to be in the cameras at launch, like the HPX600.

Also, F5 supports 60fps out of the box, but it's unclear if it's cranked or normal recording.

And since the spec hasn't been implemented yet, can we all wish for a 200Mbps Intra frame option in XAVC before AVC-Ultra comes out?
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