Sony's shoulder brace launched at SATIS at DVinfo.net

Matt Davis · October 28th, 2009, 11:32 AM

Just watching Rick Young's roundup of SATIS news about the EX1R. It's about 06:32 into the video.

Okay, so it's a bit fiddly with lots of things to pull out and push in, but wondering how this works out when pitched against other offerings, especially the 'El Cheapo' and its variants, and those exquisitely milled aluminium artworks.

What I especially note is that the Sony offering clamps into a standard Sony plate, with a reassuring 'clunk' according to the video.

I am forever switching between tripod and handheld, and have experienced 'tripod plate wobblies' and that awful knowledge that the connection between camera and tripod head is on a par with your average bean-bag and chewing gum combo.

So, today's meditation is: Brace or Tiger Claw?

Charles Newcomb · October 28th, 2009, 12:25 PM

The video doesn't say much for Miller tripods. Those cameras were wobbling all over the place.

Boyd Ostroff · October 28th, 2009, 12:25 PM

That does look kind of interesting. Not so crazy about the way it looks on the tripod though.

Adam Stanislav · October 28th, 2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Daviss

other offerings, especially the 'El Cheapo' and its variants, and those exquisitely milled aluminium artworks.

I'm sorry, this is the second time today I see someone referring to "El Cheapo". Is that a brand name or is it some insider joke that new forum members are not supposed to understand?

Can you let me in on this secret? Especially since my new EX3 is scheduled to finally arrive in two days and I will need to decide what kind of shoulder brace to buy for it (for the record, I am 193 cm (6'4") tall and walk with a cane, so this may not be an easy thing to figure out for me).

Paul Kousoulides · October 28th, 2009, 01:25 PM

Hi Adam,

I believe "El Cheapo" is a Phil Bloomism. You should be able to find his review for this shoulder brace on his website. I don't know who makes it or what it's called. CVP once stocked it but I think Phil bought his from e-bay under a different monica - I may be wrong.

"El Cheapo" seems to have stuck.

Mike Chandler · October 28th, 2009, 02:13 PM

Looks to be essentially the support system of the El Cheapo with the added advantage that it collapses flat. Anyone know the price? Or have a link?

Adam Stanislav · October 28th, 2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Kousoulides

I believe "El Cheapo" is a Phil Bloomism.

So, that's where I saw it earlier today... On his web site. Unfortunately, his advice to go with the El Cheapo is completely worthless when he does not mention what he means by that. :( Oh well...

Matt Davis · October 29th, 2009, 02:28 AM

The term 'El Cheapo' is, in UK English of a certain dialect, a way of hinting that the product or service is absolutely the lowest cost whilst remaining actually able to deliver the promised service or product. In terms of the aforementioned camera support, it looks a bit amateur and cheaply produced, but functions a lot better than appearances would expect so has a nod of respect from the pros. English can be infuriating like that.

I believe the original El Cheapo was from an Indian supplier called CineCity - with a huge eBay presence. Since then, again in my perception, a UK distributor has been engaged which increases the purchase cost a little but gives the impression of a little more security.

But the idea of having such a unit collapse down and fit on top of a tripod (in other words, the one you already own and trust) using the standard Sony mount is appealing.

I only hope it can be retrofitted to the EX1 I already own. Spent a few days somewhere hot and sunny and the wedge plate betwixed EX1 and head was reduced to the level of chewing gum. Even the producer commented on my bravery on trusting the head to hold by beloved camera safe. He had a point.

Anthony McErlean · October 29th, 2009, 04:16 AM

Wouldn't mind having a look at the Sony shoulder brace they demonstrated here.
I need something for my EX3.

MacVideo - Camera Technology - Features - World Debut: Sony PMW-EX1R; PMW-350; SxS-1 cards; MEAD-MS01 Memory Stick adapter

Boyd Ostroff · October 29th, 2009, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Daviss

I only hope it can be retrofitted to the EX1 I already own

In the linked video, the guy says the shoulder brace can be used with any camera, and mentions the HVR-Z series.

Anthony McErlean · November 16th, 2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony McErlean

Wouldn't mind having a look at the Sony shoulder brace they demonstrated here.
I need something for my EX3.

MacVideo - Camera Technology - Features - World Debut: Sony PMW-EX1R; PMW-350; SxS-1 cards; MEAD-MS01 Memory Stick adapter

Just wondering about this Sony shoulder brace, did anyone try to find out more about it.
I didn't have any luck yet.

Duncan Craig · November 16th, 2009, 10:43 AM

I've bought the El-Cheapo for my EX1. I've already got 4 DV-Tec supports, but the damn EX1 won't work properly on any of them.

Anyway the El-Cheapo works fine, I put a Manfrotto quick release on it, but had to drill the slide hole a little larger at one end to get the large sized Manfrotto bolt in. I took out the two sliding trapped nuts which where already fitted. When I tightened the Manfrotto bolts down onto the plate the mounting plate on the El-Cheapo cracked.

I put the supplied sliding nuts back in to help keep the Manfrotto QR plate from crushing it any further.

If you get this setup it's something to watch out for, and think about first.

But I still recommend it. The included strap is added security to wrap around your back and onto the body mount itself.

Colin Rowe · November 16th, 2009, 02:34 PM

The Sony shoulder brace/tripod plate will apparently retail for around £500.
Here is the El Cheapo.http://www.virtualvillage.co.uk/home...r-support.html

October 28th, 2009, 11:32 AM	#1
Matt Davis Trustee Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,562	Sony's shoulder brace launched at SATIS Just watching Rick Young's roundup of SATIS news about the EX1R. It's about 06:32 into the video. Okay, so it's a bit fiddly with lots of things to pull out and push in, but wondering how this works out when pitched against other offerings, especially the 'El Cheapo' and its variants, and those exquisitely milled aluminium artworks. What I especially note is that the Sony offering clamps into a standard Sony plate, with a reassuring 'clunk' according to the video. I am forever switching between tripod and handheld, and have experienced 'tripod plate wobblies' and that awful knowledge that the connection between camera and tripod head is on a par with your average bean-bag and chewing gum combo. So, today's meditation is: Brace or Tiger Claw? __________________ Director/Editor - MDMA Ltd: Write, Shoot, Edit, Publish - mattdavis.pro EX1 x2, C100 --> FCPX & PPro6

October 28th, 2009, 02:13 PM	#6
Mike Chandler Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Moab, UT Posts: 264	Looks to be essentially the support system of the El Cheapo with the added advantage that it collapses flat. Anyone know the price? Or have a link? __________________ www.packcreekproductions.com EX3, Mac Pro, FCP

October 29th, 2009, 02:28 AM	#8
Matt Davis Trustee Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Berkshire, UK Posts: 1,562	The term 'El Cheapo' is, in UK English of a certain dialect, a way of hinting that the product or service is absolutely the lowest cost whilst remaining actually able to deliver the promised service or product. In terms of the aforementioned camera support, it looks a bit amateur and cheaply produced, but functions a lot better than appearances would expect so has a nod of respect from the pros. English can be infuriating like that. I believe the original El Cheapo was from an Indian supplier called CineCity - with a huge eBay presence. Since then, again in my perception, a UK distributor has been engaged which increases the purchase cost a little but gives the impression of a little more security. But the idea of having such a unit collapse down and fit on top of a tripod (in other words, the one you already own and trust) using the standard Sony mount is appealing. I only hope it can be retrofitted to the EX1 I already own. Spent a few days somewhere hot and sunny and the wedge plate betwixed EX1 and head was reduced to the level of chewing gum. Even the producer commented on my bravery on trusting the head to hold by beloved camera safe. He had a point. __________________ Director/Editor - MDMA Ltd: Write, Shoot, Edit, Publish - mattdavis.pro EX1 x2, C100 --> FCPX & PPro6

October 29th, 2009, 04:16 AM	#9
Anthony McErlean Trustee Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 1,077	Sony shoulder brace Wouldn't mind having a look at the Sony shoulder brace they demonstrated here. I need something for my EX3. MacVideo - Camera Technology - Features - World Debut: Sony PMW-EX1R; PMW-350; SxS-1 cards; MEAD-MS01 Memory Stick adapter

November 16th, 2009, 10:43 AM	#12
Duncan Craig Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 660 Images: 10	I've bought the El-Cheapo for my EX1. I've already got 4 DV-Tec supports, but the damn EX1 won't work properly on any of them. Anyway the El-Cheapo works fine, I put a Manfrotto quick release on it, but had to drill the slide hole a little larger at one end to get the large sized Manfrotto bolt in. I took out the two sliding trapped nuts which where already fitted. When I tightened the Manfrotto bolts down onto the plate the mounting plate on the El-Cheapo cracked. I put the supplied sliding nuts back in to help keep the Manfrotto QR plate from crushing it any further. If you get this setup it's something to watch out for, and think about first. But I still recommend it. The included strap is added security to wrap around your back and onto the body mount itself. __________________ FCPX/LS300/EX1/FS100/GoPro/Vinten/HotHead/Jib/Track/Dedos/Lightstorm/Coollights

October 28th, 2009, 12:25 PM	#2
Charles Newcomb Major Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Salida, Colorado Posts: 561	The video doesn't say much for Miller tripods. Those cameras were wobbling all over the place.

October 28th, 2009, 12:25 PM	#3
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	That does look kind of interesting. Not so crazy about the way it looks on the tripod though.

October 28th, 2009, 01:25 PM	#5
Paul Kousoulides Regular Crew Join Date: May 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 35	Hi Adam, I believe "El Cheapo" is a Phil Bloomism. You should be able to find his review for this shoulder brace on his website. I don't know who makes it or what it's called. CVP once stocked it but I think Phil bought his from e-bay under a different monica - I may be wrong. "El Cheapo" seems to have stuck.

November 16th, 2009, 02:34 PM	#13
Colin Rowe Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cornwall UK Posts: 793	The Sony shoulder brace/tripod plate will apparently retail for around £500. Here is the El Cheapo.http://www.virtualvillage.co.uk/home...r-support.html __________________ Colin