Shipping Date for the EX

Paul Joy · November 2nd, 2007, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joachim Hoge

Do the camera ship with a power adapter to run it off the mains?

Yes, although it's not possible to recharge a battery whilst doing this, either on the charger or with a battery in the camera.

Joachim Hoge · November 2nd, 2007, 05:17 AM

Well at least that save me on the documentary that
I´m undertaking. It´s mostly indoors and in controlled situations.

Tibor Duliskovich · November 2nd, 2007, 08:29 AM

SxS flash memory card are not going to be available anytime soon. I just checked Sandisk and Sony sites and it seems these cards are either still in development or the production facilities are not yet ready to mass produce them. And I am talking about the 8GB cards, 16 and 32 GBs are way beyond the horizon.

It is becoming annoying that manufacturers try to capture more of market by announcing their products half year in advance... Please give us realistic release dates and don't give us bare-bones, we need all optional accessories available when products ship!

Craig Seeman · November 2nd, 2007, 08:58 AM

Obviously 8GB cards are available since they're included with the camera. In what quantity I don't know but they're already in production.

Sandisk Sept press release said their 8GB and 16GB cards would be shipping in Nov. Even if they're behind sched I'd guess they'd be December or January the latest.

I think the thing in flux is probably pricing versus production capacity and commitment to making sure all cameras sold have initial cards.. Sony was vague about the EX1 price (under $8000 which could well have be $7999) and now most dealers seem to be settling on $6699 or thereabouts and one dealer tells me Sony has set a "floor" of about $6500. That's around 16-19% lower than it could have been.

The may be underproducing which is different than not ready to produce yet.

Mike Williams · November 2nd, 2007, 01:02 PM

That is a deal killer for me. I wanted to buy one right away but I can't go out to shoot with one battery!! No chance in hedes. :(

That hurts too. I really wanted one right away. I guess I'll just wait until they have the batts and cards ready to sell.

Mike

Phil Bloom · November 7th, 2007, 05:22 PM

i have been told to expect my ex1 on Friday...could this be possible?

Paul Ramsbottom · November 7th, 2007, 05:44 PM

I don't think anyone know's exactly.

BTW, I'm in the US and in line at B&H, somewhere in the top 15 I am told.

I have it on reasonably good authority that the first shipments are already 'ex-factory', which I guess means they have shipped from Japan to the various international locations/distributors.

If one rumor I read was correct, those first shipments went out last week.

If all of that is true, and if the inventory for the UK went air-freight and got through customs quickly, then this Friday wouldn't be impossble. Unlikely but not impossible.

I think the availability of the manuals and drivers and now an update to that software must portend something.

Craig Seeman · November 7th, 2007, 05:50 PM

AbelCine is showing Card prices now although only "accepting orders"

8GB $485
16GB $875

http://www.abelcine.com/store/produc...1&cat=0&page=1

4hr battery shows as $234

Alan Waters · November 7th, 2007, 07:32 PM

Ok so have finally decided to spring for the EX1 instead of the HVX200 (the ability to shoot native DV made me undecided) and have the financing setup.

The choice now is wheather to buy in UK, Europe or take a chance on a US one....I have someone to buy it for me and take it back if needed.

the UK price looks like converting to around 6,600 EUR and the US 4,567 EUR...thats a lot of lifference.

Thing stopping me jumping for it right away is things going wrong with it and having to ship it back to person who purchases it for me (messy messy) and US power cables.

Alan Waters · November 7th, 2007, 07:41 PM

I take it the SxS cards are compatible with the UK model.

What about the 0.8X Wide Angle Adapter, Battery and SxS Memory Reader?

they are much cheaper in the States too.

Brian Leahy · November 7th, 2007, 08:11 PM

I thought for the us power cables, you would just use some sort of simple cheap socket converter. am i completely wrong?

Craig Seeman · November 7th, 2007, 08:21 PM

I suspect the "in" to the camera itself is standard but the plug on the other end of the AC adaptor/battery charger will be the variable. If it's like some "modern" power supplies they'll be a detachable plug going to the adaptor and that will be the device that varies in the kit.

The above is just speculation but I just got another device which is both NTSC/PAL to use with the camera (Telestream/Flip4Mac Pipeline) in which the power supply is designed that way.

In the "worst" case you might have to buy a 240V charger (or just the 240V power cable) but the camera itself, including the power input, will likely be the same (just a hunch mind you).

Jiri Bakala · November 7th, 2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Seeman

I suspect the "in" to the camera itself is standard but the plug on the other end of the AC adaptor/battery charger will be the variable. If it's like some "modern" power supplies they'll be a detachable plug going to the adaptor and that will be the device that varies in the kit.

The above is just speculation but I just got another device which is both NTSC/PAL to use with the camera (Telestream/Flip4Mac Pipeline) in which the power supply is designed that way.

In the "worst" case you might have to buy a 240V charger (or just the 240V power cable) but the camera itself, including the power input, will likely be the same (just a hunch mind you).

They are always dual voltage. If only to allow charging while shooting abroad. So, all one needs is the physical plug adaptor(s) for the respective country.

Serena Steuart · November 7th, 2007, 08:35 PM

The camera will run off 12v DC. I've been looking for a use for my Arri Ni-Cad brick -- should run the EX for a few days.

Jiri Bakala · November 7th, 2007, 10:12 PM

Yeah, I have an IDX system with three batteries. It would also be nice if it could be used with the camera. Maybe a dummy battery with an IDX attachement? Has anyone made something like this?

November 2nd, 2007, 01:02 PM	#20
Mike Williams Major Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USVI Posts: 232	Looks like a major issue That is a deal killer for me. I wanted to buy one right away but I can't go out to shoot with one battery!! No chance in hedes. :( That hurts too. I really wanted one right away. I guess I'll just wait until they have the batts and cards ready to sell. Mike

November 7th, 2007, 05:22 PM	#21
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	i have been told to expect my ex1 on Friday...could this be possible? __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

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Jiri Bakala Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Kelowna BC Canada Posts: 706	Yeah, I have an IDX system with three batteries. It would also be nice if it could be used with the camera. Maybe a dummy battery with an IDX attachement? Has anyone made something like this? __________________ www.ascentfilms.com

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November 2nd, 2007, 05:17 AM	#17
Joachim Hoge Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	Well at least that save me on the documentary that I´m undertaking. It´s mostly indoors and in controlled situations.

November 2nd, 2007, 08:29 AM	#18
Tibor Duliskovich New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA Posts: 24	SxS flash memory card are not going to be available anytime soon. I just checked Sandisk and Sony sites and it seems these cards are either still in development or the production facilities are not yet ready to mass produce them. And I am talking about the 8GB cards, 16 and 32 GBs are way beyond the horizon. It is becoming annoying that manufacturers try to capture more of market by announcing their products half year in advance... Please give us realistic release dates and don't give us bare-bones, we need all optional accessories available when products ship!

November 2nd, 2007, 08:58 AM	#19
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Obviously 8GB cards are available since they're included with the camera. In what quantity I don't know but they're already in production. Sandisk Sept press release said their 8GB and 16GB cards would be shipping in Nov. Even if they're behind sched I'd guess they'd be December or January the latest. I think the thing in flux is probably pricing versus production capacity and commitment to making sure all cameras sold have initial cards.. Sony was vague about the EX1 price (under $8000 which could well have be $7999) and now most dealers seem to be settling on $6699 or thereabouts and one dealer tells me Sony has set a "floor" of about $6500. That's around 16-19% lower than it could have been. The may be underproducing which is different than not ready to produce yet.

November 7th, 2007, 05:44 PM	#22
Paul Ramsbottom Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 85	I don't think anyone know's exactly. BTW, I'm in the US and in line at B&H, somewhere in the top 15 I am told. I have it on reasonably good authority that the first shipments are already 'ex-factory', which I guess means they have shipped from Japan to the various international locations/distributors. If one rumor I read was correct, those first shipments went out last week. If all of that is true, and if the inventory for the UK went air-freight and got through customs quickly, then this Friday wouldn't be impossble. Unlikely but not impossible. I think the availability of the manuals and drivers and now an update to that software must portend something.

November 7th, 2007, 05:50 PM	#23
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	AbelCine is showing Card prices now although only "accepting orders" 8GB $485 16GB $875 http://www.abelcine.com/store/produc...1&cat=0&page=1 4hr battery shows as $234

November 7th, 2007, 07:32 PM	#24
Alan Waters Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 36	Ok so have finally decided to spring for the EX1 instead of the HVX200 (the ability to shoot native DV made me undecided) and have the financing setup. The choice now is wheather to buy in UK, Europe or take a chance on a US one....I have someone to buy it for me and take it back if needed. the UK price looks like converting to around 6,600 EUR and the US 4,567 EUR...thats a lot of lifference. Thing stopping me jumping for it right away is things going wrong with it and having to ship it back to person who purchases it for me (messy messy) and US power cables.

November 7th, 2007, 07:41 PM	#25
Alan Waters Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 36	I take it the SxS cards are compatible with the UK model. What about the 0.8X Wide Angle Adapter, Battery and SxS Memory Reader? they are much cheaper in the States too.

November 7th, 2007, 08:11 PM	#26
Brian Leahy Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 25	I thought for the us power cables, you would just use some sort of simple cheap socket converter. am i completely wrong?

November 7th, 2007, 08:21 PM	#27
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	I suspect the "in" to the camera itself is standard but the plug on the other end of the AC adaptor/battery charger will be the variable. If it's like some "modern" power supplies they'll be a detachable plug going to the adaptor and that will be the device that varies in the kit. The above is just speculation but I just got another device which is both NTSC/PAL to use with the camera (Telestream/Flip4Mac Pipeline) in which the power supply is designed that way. In the "worst" case you might have to buy a 240V charger (or just the 240V power cable) but the camera itself, including the power input, will likely be the same (just a hunch mind you).

November 7th, 2007, 08:35 PM	#29
Serena Steuart Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Studio Alnitak, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Posts: 640 Images: 3	The camera will run off 12v DC. I've been looking for a use for my Arri Ni-Cad brick -- should run the EX for a few days.