EX and HVX200

Chris Hurd · November 19th, 2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin Shaw

It's mentioned all the time in the form of the advertised recording resolutions of the cameras.

No it ain't.

The recording resolution is quite often a different thing from the resolution of the image sensor, which may or may not involve Pixel Shift (case in point: the VariCam and DVCPRO HD, see Thomas Smet above). I don't see how you can possibly draw a connection there. The recording resolutions are tied to the format and they are what they are. As I said, spatial offset is seldom mentioned.

Kevin Shaw · November 19th, 2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

The recording resolution is quite often a different thing from the resolution of the image sensor, which may or may not involve Pixel Shift...I don't see how you can possibly draw a connection there.

It's an obvious connection to me: would anyone have pre-ordered the HVX200 if it was marketed as a "540p" video camera? But enough of this: let's enjoy the fact that the EX1 has both a sensor and recording format with full 1080p resolution. That's a good thing which will matter to some users.

Mike McEntire · November 19th, 2007, 12:48 PM

Pixel shift Smixel shift. The real question was how the EX-1 is going to handle fast moving action! Can't wait to get some real world reviews on this issue as now it is all speculation.

Steven Thomas · November 19th, 2007, 12:53 PM

Man, I wish we all lived closer to get together and have a few beers. I bet we'd all start agreeing more. LOL

Sometimes it real hard to get your thoughts across via the internet.
I can easily see both sides on this one.

Steven Thomas · November 19th, 2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike McEntire

Pixel shift Smixel shift. The real question was how the EX-1 is going to handle fast moving action! Can't wait to get some real world reviews on this issue as now it is all speculation.

I'll tell you what. if it manitains the clarity I'm seeing in the frame grabs posted this morning, it's going to turn a lot of heads.

Thomas Smet · November 19th, 2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

Man, I wish we all lived closer to get together and have a few beers. I bet we'd all start agreeing more. LOL

Sometimes it real hard to get your thoughts across via the internet.
I can easily see both sides on this one.

But could we all agree on what type of beer to buy? Thats the real question here. Does one camera taste great while the other may be less filling?

Chris Hurd · November 19th, 2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Smet

But could we all agree on what type of beer to buy?

Probably not, but assuming we could all manage to get together, I'll gladly provide a round of Shiner Bock for everybody.

Steven Thomas · November 19th, 2007, 01:57 PM

Sounds good to me!

http://www.shiner.com/beers/images/Bock.gif

Dee Joslin · November 20th, 2007, 07:01 PM

I love these discussions. Look. I've used the XHA1 quite awhile. I've used the HD110, hv10, blah blah blah...

The XHa1 produced some amazing footage. I loved the imagery. I just got the HVX a few weeks ago and I can tell you that I prefer the HVX HD over the canon.

And when the EX comes out, I'll have one. But I don't expect it to be vastly superior to the HVX or Canon for that matter. I said it before, the HVX is the best video tool out there because it does everything. It doesn't do it all better, but it does everything. The EX1 will do some things better, but it doesn't do everything.

I, like many other Canon users were trying to set our cameras up to "look like HVX" footage in the area of color.

I'm excited about the EX1 but I expect it will do that one thing slightly better. And that's resolution. But I'm more than pleased with the final output of the HVX.

Kevin Shaw · November 20th, 2007, 07:13 PM

Okay, everybody drink two beers and then vote: is the EX1 camera body uglier than the HVX200 or about the same? :-)

Chris Hurd · November 20th, 2007, 11:59 PM

Thanks to everyone for a friendly and amiable way to conclude a hot thread.

November 20th, 2007, 07:01 PM	#69
Dee Joslin Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Scranton, PA. Posts: 91	I love these discussions. Look. I've used the XHA1 quite awhile. I've used the HD110, hv10, blah blah blah... The XHa1 produced some amazing footage. I loved the imagery. I just got the HVX a few weeks ago and I can tell you that I prefer the HVX HD over the canon. And when the EX comes out, I'll have one. But I don't expect it to be vastly superior to the HVX or Canon for that matter. I said it before, the HVX is the best video tool out there because it does everything. It doesn't do it all better, but it does everything. The EX1 will do some things better, but it doesn't do everything. I, like many other Canon users were trying to set our cameras up to "look like HVX" footage in the area of color. I'm excited about the EX1 but I expect it will do that one thing slightly better. And that's resolution. But I'm more than pleased with the final output of the HVX. __________________ "There are 10 types of people in the world: Those that understand binary, and those that don't!"

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November 19th, 2007, 12:48 PM	#63
Mike McEntire New Boot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 22	Pixel shift Smixel shift. The real question was how the EX-1 is going to handle fast moving action! Can't wait to get some real world reviews on this issue as now it is all speculation.

November 19th, 2007, 12:53 PM	#64
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Man, I wish we all lived closer to get together and have a few beers. I bet we'd all start agreeing more. LOL Sometimes it real hard to get your thoughts across via the internet. I can easily see both sides on this one.

November 19th, 2007, 01:57 PM	#68
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Sounds good to me! http://www.shiner.com/beers/images/Bock.gif

November 20th, 2007, 07:13 PM	#70
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Okay, everybody drink two beers and then vote: is the EX1 camera body uglier than the HVX200 or about the same? :-)