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Old November 27th, 2007, 10:12 PM   #46
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I'm seeing absolutely none of what you mentioned.
Actually the EX1 1080 30P has the most natural look out of the frame stills.

I've seen you make this reference before.
IMO, these are not good examples for the other cameras. The EX1 1080 30P is in a COMPLETELY different league. It has FAR less noise and artifical detail and ton a lot more detail. I'm not finding this image below subjective, that's for sure.

Woops meant to write:
HVX200 on left, EX1 on Right

http://members.cox.net/vx2000/HVX200_EX1_Bottle.bmp

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Old November 27th, 2007, 11:07 PM   #47
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True, but there are a few lingering ?'s about the EX. One is the preponderance of green. I know it can be toned down in the camera, but may be a result of the ClearVid sensor, which uses more green and less red and blue pixles than other types of sensors. I'm not so sure if this doesn't have some drawbacks.
As far as I know clearvid is not used on the EX1. Clearvid and CMOS are not the same thing. There would really be very little reason to use clearvid on this camera since the chips are native 1920x1080 to begin with. The EX1 will use a straight ratio of aligned RGB pixels from the chips so there should be no larger amount of green pixels used. Adjusting the color in the camera should fix the green tint.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 11:46 PM   #48
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Thomas,

You may well be right about ClearVid's pixel strategy not being used on the EX1. Reading up on it, it has an Exmor sensor. Which may or may not (I can't find out for certain) use the ClearVid pattern.
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Old November 27th, 2007, 11:53 PM   #49
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Recanting my post. I had the HVX image and the EX image mixed up. Ignore me, sorry.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 12:39 AM   #50
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I'm seeing absolutely none of what you mentioned.
Actually the EX1 1080 30P has the most natural look out of the frame stills.

I've seen you make this reference before.
IMO, these are not good examples for the other cameras. The EX1 1080 30P is in a COMPLETELY different league. It has FAR less noise and artifical detail and ton a lot more detail. I'm not finding this image below subjective, that's for sure.

HVX200 on Right, EX1 on left

http://members.cox.net/vx2000/HVX200_EX1_Bottle.bmp
Steven,

Look at the Rasta shot at 30P for the G1 and the EX. To me the G1 looks more natural and less plastic. Perhaps it's due to the highlights being hotter, which actually adds some extra depth.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 08:48 AM   #51
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My bad for posting the HVX / EX1 bitmap.
You are right that the G1 and EX1 both look good.

If you think the G1 looks better, than that's great.
The G1 is a an excellent camera.
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