XDCAM EX1 on the road blog

Phil Bloom · December 9th, 2007, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by John Hewat

Hi Phil,

As always your footage is fantastic. Something that made me laugh though - the final two shots of the clip are of the woman saying something to the effect of "My hopes are that my children follow religion the way I've followed.." and then it dissolves into that sped up footage of the sheep.

Was this a symbolic comment or just co-incidence?

-- John.

Not at all! But I can see where you are coming from. If anyone could have interpreted it that way it should have been me given my thoughts...but no, it's more about the passage of time...through the years etc! worried me there though. I hope other people don't see it like that!

Phil Bloom · December 9th, 2007, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan

Phil, the Buddhist family story looks amazing, except two shots: one, with bicycle in the shot, another one with a yellow warning sign, (some blown highlights there), love the colors, was the lens wide open? It's probably the best stuff I've seen from 350. Makes me think of buying it instead of waiting for the Red One.
The protestant family has more problems with dynamic range, I could definetly notice more lost details in white, less dynamic range, less color, etc.
Great stories. Thanks again.
Could you post one image of Ex1 with letus in full res?

Thanks Oleg. It's actually more to do with grading. Both have very different grades.

I have attached a still from the Letus/ Ex1 combo that is ungraded. I am editing it tomorrow.

Oleg Kalyan · December 9th, 2007, 03:53 AM

Thanks again for prompt response,
So the difference just in grading, do you mean you consider 350 and Ex1 comparable in all kinds of lighting situations?

Phil Bloom · December 9th, 2007, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan

Thanks again for prompt response,
So the difference just in grading, do you mean you consider 350 and Ex1 comparable in all kinds of lighting situations?

The EX1 is much more sensitive than the F350. The F350 is of course a better camera, but the EX1 is an impressive little beast. I am very happy with the results from it. More so that any other "small" camera I have used. It is the only camera of that type that I would consider using as an A camera when I could easily use the F350 instead.

Oleg Kalyan · December 9th, 2007, 03:58 AM

Great! Look forward to see some more footage, possibly you could post few seconds in 2K?
regards, Oleg.

Phil Bloom · December 9th, 2007, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan

Great! Look forward to see some more footage, possibly you could post few seconds in 2K?
regards, Oleg.

2k of what?

Piotr Wozniacki · December 9th, 2007, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

2k of what?

Now, this is a good one... A true artist vs. us -measurebators.

PS. Oleg, I meant no offence - I'm a technology-obsessed quirk myself:)

Oleg Kalyan · December 9th, 2007, 05:19 AM

I meant 1080 by 1920 of EX1 footage, possibly wide shot with detail, street, field, etc.

Phil Bloom · December 9th, 2007, 06:14 AM

I have posted stills on this thread.

I understand why but it's east to become obsessed with numbers and forget about why we use the cameras in the first place but don't forget numbers and stats aren't what it's all about!!

Ariel Sasaki · December 9th, 2007, 06:28 PM

http://vtokyo.ddo.jp/~pro/ex1a1.html

Steven Thomas · December 9th, 2007, 08:44 PM

Ariel,
I don't at all follow your rez tests.
The sample charts were shot at an angle.
Also, they were not set up correctly to the correct marks; therefore,
the tests do not mean anything. In fact the HV20 was shot a lot wider FOV.
????????????????

Ariel Sasaki · December 9th, 2007, 09:04 PM

it is not my site.

Steven Thomas · December 9th, 2007, 09:06 PM

Sorry, then I'm not sure why you posted it.
Take a look at the large rez charts.. LOL... They're shot on an angle all at
different field of views.
Very strange.

Mike Barber · December 10th, 2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oleg Kalyan

I meant 1080 by 1920 of EX1 footage, possibly wide shot with detail, street, field, etc.

*ahem*

sorry to knit-pick, but. . .

2k != 1920x1080
2k = 2048x1080

What I am really curious about is the EX1s 24p. What is the pulldown? Are we talking something akin to what Adam Wilt refers to as "24p Standard" (a la Panasonic DVX200 24p) or "24p Advanced" (a la DVX2000 24pA)?

If I'm going to be going out to film and want the easiest path in conforming to true 24fps, is this camera a contender (excellent image quality aside)?

Chris Hurd · December 10th, 2007, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Barber

sorry to knit-pick, but...
2k != 1920x1080
2k = 2048x1080

Knit-picking is never a good idea on this site.

The difference between 1080p and 2K is so minimal that they may as well be synonymous terms, and sometimes for all practical purposes they are, as far as we're concerned here. Hope this helps,

December 9th, 2007, 06:14 AM	#114
Phil Bloom Trustee Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London UK Posts: 1,939	I have posted stills on this thread. I understand why but it's east to become obsessed with numbers and forget about why we use the cameras in the first place but don't forget numbers and stats aren't what it's all about!! __________________ Philip Bloom Cinematographer, Director, Filmmaker www.philipbloom.net

December 9th, 2007, 03:53 AM	#108
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Thanks again for prompt response, So the difference just in grading, do you mean you consider 350 and Ex1 comparable in all kinds of lighting situations?

December 9th, 2007, 03:58 AM	#110
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	Great! Look forward to see some more footage, possibly you could post few seconds in 2K? regards, Oleg.

December 9th, 2007, 05:19 AM	#113
Oleg Kalyan Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: MOSCOW Posts: 860	I meant 1080 by 1920 of EX1 footage, possibly wide shot with detail, street, field, etc.

December 9th, 2007, 06:28 PM	#115
Ariel Sasaki New Boot Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tokyo Posts: 6	http://vtokyo.ddo.jp/~pro/ex1a1.html

December 9th, 2007, 08:44 PM	#116
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Ariel, I don't at all follow your rez tests. The sample charts were shot at an angle. Also, they were not set up correctly to the correct marks; therefore, the tests do not mean anything. In fact the HV20 was shot a lot wider FOV. ????????????????

December 9th, 2007, 09:04 PM	#117
Ariel Sasaki New Boot Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Tokyo Posts: 6	it is not my site.

December 9th, 2007, 09:06 PM	#118
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Sorry, then I'm not sure why you posted it. Take a look at the large rez charts.. LOL... They're shot on an angle all at different field of views. Very strange.