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Brian Jansen November 30th, 2007 03:44 PM

vignette problem quick fix
 
vignette problem no longer seen with lens shade removed. :)

Piotr Wozniacki November 30th, 2007 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Jansen (Post 784975)
vignette problem no longer seen with lens shade removed. :)

I kept asking people reporting this problem whether they actually did this test, but the answer was yes they did and vignetting was still there.

Robert Petersen November 30th, 2007 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Jansen (Post 784975)
vignette problem no longer seen with lens shade removed. :)

I don't understand how this could be an issue, since the reported problem was in mid-zoom. I guess you could have a unique problem.

Brian Jansen November 30th, 2007 03:53 PM

well, I see the issue quite clearly with the lens shade on, but not so doing
same exact test with it removed. Maybe a few others may/could confirm this.
I hope it's as simple as this.

Robert Petersen November 30th, 2007 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Jansen (Post 784989)
well, I see the issue quite clearly with the lens shade on, but not so doing
same exact test with it removed. Maybe a few others may/could confirm this.
I hope it's as simple as this.

I agree that this should be investigated; there may be some strange dynamic affecting the lens. I hope others will try it.

Eric Pascarelli November 30th, 2007 04:15 PM

My camera vignettes equally with or without the lens hood installed.

Brian Jansen November 30th, 2007 04:19 PM

man... thats weird. I tried it twice here too before I posted.
Glad you tried it, but I don't have an explaination for it.
I just know that I will be using a matte box or something other than
the shade whenever possible.

Steven Thomas November 30th, 2007 04:41 PM

When I first tried my camera, that's the first thing I tried.
No good.
Also, as it was mentioned it happens between 10mm-25mm not at it's wide position (5.8mm).

Brian Jansen November 30th, 2007 04:55 PM

well, I'm stumped. I'm shooting a decently flat lit white wall at about f11
Waveform shows nice flat line around 60IRE.
I just did test again both with and without.... AND NOTHING... looked fine.
I know I had the problem earlier and have a clip of it, AND I've seen it before.
So my current test proves nothing I guess.
Now I'm in TEST mode!

Piotr Wozniacki November 30th, 2007 05:00 PM

Open up from F11, please.

Steven Thomas November 30th, 2007 05:06 PM

You need to be at the widest aperture 1.9
Also pleasee use see the test thread:
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=109119

Steven Thomas November 30th, 2007 06:24 PM

Chris, if you could, please remove this thread. There is no "quick fix" for the vignetting issue.

Brian Jansen November 30th, 2007 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas (Post 785073)
Chris, if you could, please remove this thread. There is no "quick fix" for the vignetting issue.

I'll try recording a sample both with and without shade per your example.
I don't think deleting this thread is appropiate ... as I "do" have an EX-1 and am having similar, but mixed results and trying to help comfirm a possible mass problem.

Steven Thomas November 30th, 2007 09:46 PM

If it were a problem with the shade it would be at a wide open aperature (1.9 on the EX1) and with the zoom set to it's widest position (5.8mm).

Everyone else include Adam Wilt's pre-production EX1 shows the the issue in the 10-25mm range.

Please post samples with and without your shade on with your camera set to its widest zoom setting and your aperure set to 1.9 (open).

These are the settings that would show the lens hood if it were to cause vignetting.

Ken Hull December 1st, 2007 01:47 AM

Here's a possibility ...
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest an explanation for how it could be the hood. Zoom lenses are complicated beasts with floating elements. I wouldn't be surprised if the nodal point shifts while zooming. Maybe at the widest angle, the nodal point is way out near the front element, and seeing "around" the edge of the hood. As you zoom in, maybe the nodal point shifts back and the hood comes into view.

Hey, its a theory. Probably could do a test with a piece of gaffers tape stretched across the hood, so it shows along the edge even when at f/8 or so.

My 2 cents worth, :)
Ken Hull


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